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This is a moderated phorum for the CIVILIZED discussion of the Miami Dolphins. In this phorum, there are rules and moderators to make sure you abide by the rules. The moderators for this phorum are JC and Colonel.
If we aren't gonna have a decent FS, then we better have a pass rush that helps our secondary out. I can get a quality DT in rd 2 this year to pair with Solai and Ferguson (past week 8).
He has some off the field issues, but Im willing to roll the dice on this kid. His upside is huge.
montequi Wrote:
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> > Wake isn't a 4 down player though. Kindle is
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> How do you know? Wake played every down in the
> CFL. Kindle isn't even a rookie yet.
1) This ain't the CFL son
2) Kindle is a rookie. He will be drafted in April, hence he is a rookie
Earl Thomas seems like a good value at this spot also Dan Williams the UT Nose tackle. if they bring back JT or not I would like to see them adress the OLB spot in the draft. I think Anderson and Wake can hold down the strong side in a rotation. I doubt JT can be counted on full time and maybe he and Moses can hold down the weak side. If JT plays in passing situations i think he can stay fresh for 16 games and be efffective the entire year.
FYI...Dez Bryant would be an intriging guy at this spot
Excuses are tools of the incompetent...those who specialize in them rarely specialize in anythine else
in my mind bryant is not an option. i would rather trade the pick for marshall who is a proven playmaker and top wr than draft bryant who is not proven. i like earl thomas. too early for dan williams. parcells likes to draft NT later in the draft. its either OLB or S
I think that if Jason Pierre-Paul is there at #12, Parcells may have a hard time passing on him. He doesn't meet Parcells' likes of being from a big school and having a long track record. But, he's just such an athletic freak, maybe Parcells will see him as the next Demarcus Ware.
MikeO Wrote:
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> > How do you know? Wake played every down in the
> > CFL. Kindle isn't even a rookie yet.
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> 1) This ain't the CFL son
Nor is it college...dumbass.
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> 2) Kindle is a rookie. He will be drafted in
> April, hence he is a rookie
Not yet. He's still a college player.
We need the best player possible at 12. But NOT RB or WR. No WR is going to get us there next year.
Many other positions will benefit with a 12th GOOD pick.
a high level player at Texas is better than the best player in the CFL
To say Sergio Kindell or anyone who isn't drafted isn't a rookie is moronic and just a play on words. They will be drafted. They will be drafted high and they will be rookies. It's inevitable
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> a high level player at Texas is better than the
> best player in the CFL
Dude...that's ridiculous. CFL is professional football. There have been plenty of high-level players at Texas that didn't amount to anything in the NFL.
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> To say Sergio Kindell or anyone who isn't drafted
> isn't a rookie is moronic and just a play on
> words. They will be drafted. They will be drafted
> high and they will be rookies. It's inevitable
if an OLB is taken at 12, i hope it is not another vernon gholston who has had zero impact. miami will probably need to draft multiple starters from this draft at S and NT. OLB will get time in rotation and so would a wide receiver
i agree that JT isnt a starter and with all of the oLB on the roster i dont think any are starters except maybe wake. we will have to see bout him. parcells loves to draft OLB in the first round so i assume thats who miami will draft unless he loves thomas or berry falls to 12(unlikely). i would rather have thomas or berry tho because they are coverage safeties and with them and dansby we will fill the two biggest holes in the d from last year. a OLB in the second round or later will maybe start but with all of the OLB i think it will be OLB by committee this season anyway.
dolphin1423 Wrote:
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> i think it
> will be OLB by committee this season anyway.
Agree. With Wake, Anderson, and JT, we'll have plenty of pass rushing from the WOLB spot. What we need is another Roth-like OLB at SOLB. That can be had in the 2nd or 3rd round or in free agency.
Well, in a no trade down scenario...I'm trying to project who Parcells/Ireland/Sparano will go after.
Personally, my favorite position is the WR spot...so I am always skewed in that direction.
But what little I know about this regime, they would prefer to continue to build the defense with some playmakers at the LB spot. The great thing about a 3-4 defense is that it allows you to keep extra LB's on the roster.
This regime is looking for experienced players that are smart, tough, big, and disciplined. I think those requirements places a guy like McClain as a direct hit.
I think Brandon Graham would be a real option...especially if he had a little more size.
My third option would be a wild horse...Everson Griffin... a freak of nature who has great potential and was especially well coached this last season.
I would really like to see us take a nose tackle of some sort at 12, im satisfied with dansby and wake at OLB, or maybe move wake to the inside and put phil merling in as an OLB with torbor on the opposite ILB of Wake, or backfield ought to be much improved with our new DC and the pressure our front 7 will produce. As far as offensively our only huge needs are an inside lineman, basically for depth i reckon, and WR which Byrants gone at 12 and the others arent top 25 worthy in my opinion.
It does seem like many roads we could venture down to find our man, but it will pretty much be top player availiable, which im guessing to be somewhere on the d line or safety since theres like 100 quality men in those positions this year.