On this Thanksgiving weekend I will be VERY Thankful if Auburn holds onto this 14-0 lead they have and ruins NicK Saban's season!!

GO TIGERS!!!

if they lose, they still have a chance to make it to the championship bowl game, if they beat florida next week, they could climb back in, so it all really depends on next week, not this week

not beating fla.. not even close

MiamiDolphins4Life Wrote:
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> if they lose, they still have a chance to make it
> to the championship bowl game, if they beat
> florida next week, they could climb back in, so it
> all really depends on next week, not this week

Not an issue now, but no way were they getting in over an unbeaten TCU or Cincy team if they LOST today then beat Florida next week. There would have been holy hell to pay if a 1-loss team got in over an unbeaten again and CONGRESS would have been all over this. With Orin Hatch leading the way!

MikeO Wrote:

> Not an issue now, but no way were they getting in
> over an unbeaten TCU or Cincy team if they LOST
> today then beat Florida next week. There would
> have been holy hell to pay if a 1-loss team got in
> over an unbeaten again and CONGRESS would have
> been all over this. With Orin Hatch leading the
> way!

Oh how sweet that would've been. Bama loses then beats Fla and gets into the national championship game over an unbeaten. A scenario like that to play out is only way we'll ever get a playoff system in college football. Until then, we'll have to watch meaningless bowl games with teams that haven't played a down in up to 6 weeks.

never see a playoff in division IA college football. No need for it. Once you have a playoff, the regular season becomes meaningless and the NCAA and TV networks won't let that happen!! Instead of fighting over who is #1 or #2 you start fighting over who is #16 and #17 and who gets invited into the playoff.

The college presidents will NEVER let it happen and I agree with them on this issue

it happened before people!

Winning games in the regular season to qualify for a playoff would make the regular season meaningless? Ok...

No playoffs is why I just can't get too excited for college football anymore. We're going to have several unbeaten teams with no shot of playing for the title because they weren't ranked high enough before the season even started. So ridiculous.

The regular season becomes meaningless? That's one of the dumbest things I've ever heard.

There WILL be a playoff in D1 football someday. It'll be a 4-8 team playoff using the bowls currently in place.

75% of the people that watch college football WANT one and I agree with them on this issue.

yes the regular season would be meaningless. If you have an 8 team playoff that means this year for instance both Bama and Florida are in. Making NEXT weeks game like an NFL preseason game. Both teams will rest starters. Both teams will play bland/vanilla football. Cause they know they might meet again in a few weeks so why show the opponent anything. Same thing a few years back when Ohio St was ranked #1 and Michigan was ranked #2. Their last game would have been meaningless for the same reason and the greatest rivalry in college sports would have meant nothing. You can't kill that game!!

College football is SO POPULAR because every game from Sep till Dec means something. If you take that away, its just like the NCAA tournament in b'ball. In b'ball nobody cares about the preseason NIT, the conference championships, or the conference tournaments.....everyone just waits till the brackets are put out that first week in March and boom the season starts then for most fans. Don't turn college football into that same disaster!!

use the bowl games as the early round games. I love that one, yeah thats never gonna happen. like fans can afford to "travel" to 3 or 4 games in a row!!!! lol.

So you want an Alabama fan to travel to lets say New Orleans for Rd 1. Tempe, AZ for Rd 2. Then go to California and the Rose Bowl for the champinoship game. Yeah thats gonna work!!!

This isn't basketball where fans can travel for a weekend and the fans of the "good teams" expect to see 2 games. Wanting fans to travel for a 3 hour game week after week isn't realistic!! Not to mention who the hell can afford to do that

I love watching college football and any level of football, but...

The current system in college football is an insult.

The argument about the play offs making regular season games meaningless is without merrit (see just about every other sports league including the lower college football levels); the current system is steaped in incestual money.

Although I will agree that the absence of a playoff system actually means that the playoffs begin with the first game of the regular season and it is not a one loss and out system for eveyone.

What this country needs is:
1. Better Schools
2. Better roads
3. More prisons
4. A College Football playoff system.

You cannot defend a system that states it decides the championship for 100 or so schools when about 40 or 50 of them have no chance of winning that championship even if they win all of their games including their bowl game.

That is the reason it is killing college football. There are no Cinderlla or heart warming stories of teams putting together a miricle season from no where and winning the championship. NOT A SINGLE ONE.

There have been many situations of a school not in one of the big conferences having a great season but they have to close it out by playing in some second hand bowl game (no chance of playing for what they earned on the field).

For the national championship, I don't care if it is USC vs. Ohio St. or Brokeback Creek University vs. The Kentucky School for the Blind. As long as the teams have earned the right on the field to play for the championship. The good ole' boy system will NEVER let that happen.

The football godz are disgusted by a championship being decided by a ballot not on the field.

The game is not about opinions, the game is about playing on the field.

To put a professional angle on it: How many "experts" would have "voted" a perfect season by the 72 phins?

I am a self proclaimed dolphan maniac. I rank the 72 phins some where in the top 10 as far as talent or potential. I rank them #1 all time in professional football becasue of their accomplishment (ON THE FIELD).

On paper they may not stack up to a perfect season, but they proved it on the field. That is what the college game is missing. A heart & the football godz are not happy with it.

A playoff would KILL college football from Halloween till early December. That month of November would be like NFL preseason football. Teams resting guys. Not gameplanning. Teams having a playoff bid locked up just going through the motions.

Would RUIN the sport

Might ruin it for the 25% of the people that don't want it (you) but it would enhance it for other 75% who do.

...Halloween til early December??? That's a 4-5 game stretch.

Texas plays Nebraska this Sat. Dec. 5th. After they win, they'll play in the BCS Championship game Jan. 7th. Over a MONTH since their last game!!! Brilliant system in place!!! Oh yes, and there are 33 NFL Preseason..er Bowl games in between!!!

Such an easy solution if only they would do it. Have a final 4 playoff. With that system, every regular season game would would still carry alot of weight, which is what makes college football so unique.

you can beg for it all you want. it's never gonna happen.

1) ABC has the Rose Bowl and thats never leaving ABC. So, if a network like FOX or CBS wants a playoff you already have a conflict with the Rose Bowl.

2) More money and time has been put into "figuring out a playoff system" the past 15 years and nothing has happened. It ain't happening now. The SEC, BIG 10, BIG 12....they just ain't gonna share the wealth and let teams like TCU and Boise in on a tourney, the small schools had to go to court just to get in one of the big four bowls for pete sakes.

3) College presidents won't vote for a playoff and the current bowls don't want it either. The last thing the FED EX and Orange Bowl people want are two teams that will travel no fans; flying across the country to play in an empty stadium in a semi-final type game. It's just bad business for everyone involved!!!

It's never gonna happen. there are a millions reasons why it won't happen, only a couple of the "main" ones listed above. It's not even worth debating anymore.

Hokie Phin Wrote:
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> Such an easy solution if only they would do it.
> Have a final 4 playoff. With that system, every
> regular season game would would still carry alot
> of weight, which is what makes college football so
> unique.


So instead of crying aboout who is #2, we now cry and fight over who is #4.

Ok this year, Florida/Bama winner, Texas, Cincy, TCU, Boise.....which 4 ya take??? 5 of them will be undefeated after next Sat, who gets left out??? In the current system its a no brainer that Texas and Fla/Bama wimmer are the 2 best teams. Under a 4 team playoff now you open a can of worms and either TCU or Boise are left out and crying.

Football ain't basketball, you can't set it up the same way.....the current system is the BEST you will ever get.



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Mike I didn't say that football was basketball. I'm not asking for a 64 team playoff. The 4 team playoff that I'm suggesting is 1 extra game. It's a plus one system Mike. You would still have the Orange Bowl, Fiesta, Sugar, and Rose bowls. Not sure if you have noticed or not but they recently added a National Championship bowl game, which previously just used to be one of the four BCS bowls, instead of a separate game.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/30/2009 12:29PM by Hokie Phin.

The Orange, Fiesta, Sugar, and Rose don't exist without corporate sponors though. And what company would put their big money on a game with 2 teams they DON'T want. That will travel no fans. And play it in an empty stadium. The ORANGE BOWL loves the fact they get an ACC/Big East team every year. Cause they know whether its Clemson, West Virigina, Louisville, Georgia Tech...etc that those fans will make the short trip and fill up that stadium. Now you tell the Orange Bowl you gotta take TCU and USC as a semi-final game, two teams from halfway across the country. One team in TCU with a small to no real fan base.....and lets see if the FEDEX and Orange Bowl people are happy. Guess what, they aren't. And then FED EX backs out and then the Orange Bowl loses money and then EVERYONE LOSES!!!!!! It ain't gonna happen!!!

A plus-1 system doesn't work every year and in years it doesnt it would only cause more chaos. So 1 team goes UNBEATEN in a certain year, now they gotta play a plus-1 game? And if they were to lose......then what? No national champ that year? Or we just pick the best 1 loss team out of a hat? How does that system work??

The current system is the best. It won't get any better than what we got now.

I agree MikeO, lets do away with the NFL playoffs and just have the Super Bowl. We would just let the sports writers and a computer program determine the two best teams. The bigger market teams get more points for their market shares. So, smaller market teams might get left out, even after a better record. But that's OK, because football is not basketball

Can't compare the NFL to college sports.

Professional vs student athletes. Can't compare!!


Nice try though

MikeO Wrote:
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> The Orange, Fiesta, Sugar, and Rose don't exist
> without corporate sponors though. And what company
> would put their big money on a game with 2 teams
> they DON'T want. That will travel no fans. And
> play it in an empty stadium. The ORANGE BOWL loves
> the fact they get an ACC/Big East team every year.
> Cause they know whether its Clemson, West
> Virigina, Louisville, Georgia Tech...etc that
> those fans will make the short trip and fill up
> that stadium. Now you tell the Orange Bowl you
> gotta take TCU and USC as a semi-final game, two
> teams from halfway across the country. One team in
> TCU with a small to no real fan base.....and lets
> see if the FEDEX and Orange Bowl people are happy.
> Guess what, they aren't. And then FED EX backs out
> and then the Orange Bowl loses money and then
> EVERYONE LOSES!!!!!! It ain't gonna happen!!!
>
Wow Mike.. now seriously think about what you said here. You are talking geographics for bowl games? We played Cincinatti in the Orange Bowl last year. Is Miami really convienent for Cincinatti fans? Or how about the previous year when we played Kansas in the Orange Bowl?

And your reference for TCU not being wanted by FedEX for the Orange Bowl could not be further from the truth. Check out the majority of bowl projections on ESPN. Most have TCU in the Orange Bowl. It's also common knowledge that FedEx has expressed a great deal of interest in having TCU play in the Orange Bowl.

Your argument on geographics simply has no relevance. Ever notice that the Rose Bowl includes a team from the Big Ten each year. Kind of a long drive from Ohio St or Penn St don't you think?

If TCU ends up in the Orange Bowl its because the Orange Bowl has the final pick this year and is stuck with them

Mike, you say that the system college football has now works. Please explain how the system worked last season when a one loss Oklahoma team went to the national championship game over a one loss Texas team, which beat Oklahoma on a neutral field by 10 points?