OK, I'm not saying the season is over so "Play all the Seniors!", but I think we can all agree that a couple of changes need to be made, if for no other reason than to send a message.

So here's your chance, you make the call on three changes to this coming week's game.

Mine:

1. Bench Ginn for the game and activate Turner. Do I think Turner is the answer? Maybe, maybe not. But this would be as much a move to send a message to Ginn and the team as it would be to see if Turner is maybe a gamer and let him see the real bullets fly.

2. Bench Wilson for the game and activate Clemons. See #1

3. Start actively throwing to the TE again. Let Fasano and Haynos make some plays. Yes, Tony had a horrible game week#1 and dropped a tough catch in game #2, but we are actively ignoring a major part of our 2008 offense by turning these guys into nothing more than blockers. Is that because we don't trust our $156M line? Probably.. And no, I am not saying Haynos is Martin, but throw him the ball some times and let see what he has. Hell, if nothing else, line him and Turner up on the same side in the red zone and throw a jump ball in their direction. At 6-5 and 6-8 they should catch the ball more than they don't.

Totaly agree, oh yeah and Activate Wake, and actualy play White in a actual spread. But like i said our coach's suck, and it clearly shows, because of last years play versus this, they just dont get it.

I agree as well, but Hartline is the more logical replacement for Ginn. He has the speed to go deep. Turner can come in on 3rd downs. I think Bess can be effective as a possession WR, ala Wayne Chrebet.

Definitely bench Wilson. Heck, he should be behind Clemons AND Jason Allen on the depth chart at this point!

I, too, would like to see more throws to the TE, particularly Haynos. Fasano has played poorly for 3 games in a row!

Wow we agree on alot Monti its scarey.

montequi Wrote:
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> I agree as well, but Hartline is the more logical
> replacement for Ginn. He has the speed to go
> deep. Turner can come in on 3rd downs.

Yep, I didn't mean Turner would be an exact replacemen for Ginn, I just meant to bench Ginn to open a spot for Turner on game day.

All three valid points

You can't bench Ginn. He isn't producing like he should but draws a lot of defensive attention. You start all those other guys and they will go man coverage and blitz with the extra guy in the box.

That said;

Keep Ginn, and put Turner opposite him. He is a 3rd round pick at 6'5" 223, he needs to get in the game. Although he isn't blazing, his height on the sidelines make him a dangerous target for sideline routes, slants, and deep jump balls.

I would also say...4 WR set. Put Hartline and Bess out there with them. Spread the D, keep them in nickel & dime and run Ronnie & Ricky in the same backfield.

When you Ol can't run block you help them out with TE's. We CAN run block.

When you 2-3 WR's can't get open....you help them out by spreading the field and putting another wr out there. Find the mismatch.

Long time lurker, first time poster...

Last year I was fully behind Ginn. I defended him endlessly to detractors I heard. I really thought he would eventually develop into a major threat.

I know it's still early in the season, but I have lost a lot of hope for this guy. I think I would have to agree to bench him for a game, at the very least. A very strong message needs to be sent to him: either step up, or step aside. Game 2, he lets two sure touchdowns go right through his hands. Inexcusable in his 3rd year. Game 3, no catches. At all. None. Nada. Zip. Sure, a couple of the throws Henne threw to him were not perfect, but they were clearly catchable. And he was originally drafted to be a kick return specialist too, and he's even been beaten out in that job.

If Henne's stong arm doesn't turn Ginn into a star quickly, I think he's a lost cause for the Dolphins.

My two cents. Peace.

I agree...bench him. It either causes him to somehow mentally and in practice fight out of this funk, or gives someone else a chance to shine in his place. I really like Hartline. Ginn cannot have a game w/6 opportunities and no catches.

Keep him active and try a couple long passes w/Henne and maybe reverses, but don't start him. This is a pretty dramatic shift in mindset for me, but his performance YTD has merited such a shift. Let him prove/earn his way back into the starting lineup.

I don't think benching Ginn is the answer. Like realist said, I'd really like to see the Dolphins try to spread the field -- and maybe throw something other than a screen pass!

Let's have Ginn back to returning punts and kickoffs and start Bess in Ginn's place at WR. Is Bess a #1? No, but I think may be the closest we have to it until we see what, if anything Harline and Turner can do.

I'm scratching my head about Camarillo. He has basically disappeared this year. I'd have to imagine he is just not fully healed. It is totally amazing to me that he is out there at all. If this year goes to hell, maybe we shut him down and save hm for next year.

Hartline to me is the best overall, he can catch, is quick, fast, and is 6'2 not affraid to take a hit. Hartline is the man, a bigger faster Welker!!!

(R/J)ay Wrote:
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> I don't think benching Ginn is the answer. Like
> realist said, I'd really like to see the Dolphins
> try to spread the field -- and maybe throw
> something other than a screen pass!

He's a waste at that position. A WR that doesn't catch is useless! Hartline and Bess both have good hands. At this point they're the best options we have, and I'd like to see what they can do together.