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2017 Super Bowl in London
Posted by: MikeO ()
Date: May 06, 2009 08:01AM

Could be announced soon. Or at least prior to the start of the season.

I believe its Super Bowl 51

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Re: 2017 Super Bowl in London
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: May 06, 2009 08:02AM

Uhhhh.....eye rolling smiley

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Re: 2017 Super Bowl in London
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: May 07, 2009 02:01PM

I just don't see this happening. A superbowl means 100s of millions to an american city--can't see them letting England get that money

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Re: 2017 Super Bowl in London
Posted by: montequi ()
Date: May 07, 2009 02:06PM

Hey, this is the only way we'll see a Beatles tribute band for halftime! Or...maybe the Stones...in wheel chairs... drinking smiley

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Re: 2017 Super Bowl in London
Posted by: MikeO ()
Date: May 07, 2009 08:26PM

berkeley223 Wrote:
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> I just don't see this happening. A superbowl means
> 100s of millions to an american city--can't see
> them letting England get that money

It's gonna happen. Don't live in denile!

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Re: 2017 Super Bowl in London
Posted by: JC ()
Date: May 08, 2009 07:30AM

berkeley223 Wrote:
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> I just don't see this happening. A superbowl means
> 100s of millions to an american city--can't see
> them letting England get that money


British money is still money -- to the NFL.

"America" doesn't have the final say so, it's a private business decision. Unless of course the government takes over the NFL before the year 2017 (it could happen--if not a takeover, strict regulation could be in the future)

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Re: 2017 Super Bowl in London
Posted by: grooves12 ()
Date: May 08, 2009 12:05PM

berkeley223 Wrote:
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> I just don't see this happening. A superbowl means
> 100s of millions to an american city--can't see
> them letting England get that money


And you think the NFL, as a business cares about, American cities?? Those cities have to give up Tens if not HUNDREDS of millions of dollars in return in order for the NFL to let them host the Super Bowl, lately they have been in the form of new stadium subsidies.

But, with the US economy struggling, and local governments struggling even more, the support for cities to give up any money for non-essential things is just not there. So, it only makes sense that the NFL is now looking at larger international sites for support.

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Re: 2017 Super Bowl in London
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: May 08, 2009 03:48PM

again I just can't see it happening--fans will protest, it will work its way up to the advertisers, bud or somebody will threaten to boycott advertising if they do it, nfl will cave...it is just not gonna happen

I've been wrong before, but still...I really think this can't happen

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Re: 2017 Super Bowl in London
Posted by: JC ()
Date: May 08, 2009 07:10PM

berkeley223 Wrote:
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> again I just can't see it happening--fans will
> protest, it will work its way up to the
> advertisers, bud or somebody will threaten to
> boycott advertising if they do it, nfl will
> cave...it is just not gonna happen
>
> I've been wrong before, but still...I really think
> this can't happen

I don't know that many fans will protest. Who gets to go to the SB anyway? Everybody's watching it on TV.

The advertisers would want the exposure to the foreign markets.

I'm not saying it definitely *will* happen, but I can envision the League not giving two poops what the fans think when there's huge potential new money to be made.

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Re: 2017 Super Bowl in London
Posted by: MikeO ()
Date: May 08, 2009 11:29PM

why would advertisers protest?? Having the game NOT in America means MORE people watching on TV here in the homeland!!

And its just 1 Super Bowl. Not gonna be a regular thing. Just 1 time.

And on the fans protest. Please........everyone said the fans would protest if they lost 1 home game. Now every year a team loses 1 home game. The Bills give away home games to Toronto. Nobody cares. Nobody protets

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Re: 2017 Super Bowl in London
Posted by: eesti ()
Date: May 09, 2009 06:19AM

Who gets to go to the Super Bowl anyway? Wealthy people who can afford to pay 2k for a nose bleed ticket and also travel to Europe. The only people who could protest and do anything about it are the owners who stand to lose money from not hosting it. There are only a handful of owners who actually get to host the SB anyway. Miami, New Orleans, Jax, TB, SD, Dallas etc...and they only get the SB every 4 or 5 years so they really aren't missing out on anything. If the SB makes more money in Europe then the owners gets more money based on revenue sharing. Not much anyone can do about it.

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Re: 2017 Super Bowl in London
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: May 09, 2009 04:50PM

Wherever it is i hope this team is there.

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Re: 2017 Super Bowl in London
Posted by: english fin ()
Date: May 18, 2009 06:09AM

being a nfl fan living in england that would be amazing to see a super bowl over here. i think the time differance would be a factor. just think how cool it would be to see my dolphins playin in the super bowl in london. having seen them play in buffalo twice and london once. brig on the new season GO DOLPHINS.

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Re: 2017 Super Bowl in London
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: May 18, 2009 06:11AM

Is it true that England tax payers are taxed nearly 70% of their paychecks?

I know this isnt "Dolphin" talk, but somebody told me that and I was just wondering.

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Re: 2017 Super Bowl in London
Posted by: MikeO ()
Date: May 18, 2009 09:19AM

Most European countries pay much higher taxes like around that 70% mark your friend mentioned. BUT they get a lot more in return for their tax dollars. Like FREE universal health care and FREE college (among other things).

Im not sure if England is one of those countries, but I know MOST countries on that side of the pond are like that yes.

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Re: 2017 Super Bowl in London
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Date: May 18, 2009 05:06PM


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Re: 2017 Super Bowl in London
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: May 19, 2009 02:42AM

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"Like FREE universal health care.."


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Yeah, but do you know how long it takes to get an appointment? I seen where it takes the average breast cancer patient in Canada 19 weeks to get their first appointment. Thats not good.

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Re: 2017 Super Bowl in London
Posted by: MikeO ()
Date: May 19, 2009 04:07AM

nobody said the Canadian system is perfect. But its better than ours. And I like how we couldn't take the basis or premise of the Canadian system and just make it better here in the USA.

Because the system we have in this country sucks!!!

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Re: 2017 Super Bowl in London
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: May 19, 2009 04:48AM

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"But its better than ours."


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Oh really!? I dont find that true at all. Just because something is free, doesnt make it better. We have the best hospitals and doctors in the world.

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Re: 2017 Super Bowl in London
Posted by: MikeO ()
Date: May 19, 2009 06:21AM

talk to someone who has NO health insurance. or someone who has it but when the time is needed the insurance company won't give them coverage or screws them over.

As crappy as the free coverage might be.......its better than nothing. Which most in this country have. NOTHING!!!

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Re: 2017 Super Bowl in London
Posted by: Leon In Denver ()
Date: May 19, 2009 06:50AM

Come on people. NOTHING in this world is free. I read an article that England charges about $500.00 per person in each family per month for health care. This is paid in the form of taxes.

Either way, we pay, pay, pay. NOTHING IS FOR FREE. NOT EVEN DOLPHIN TICKETS.

There are lots of ways to improve the health care system we have, but that is a subject for another site.

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Re: 2017 Super Bowl in London
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: May 19, 2009 07:08AM

Leon In Denver Wrote:
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> Either way, we pay, pay, pay. NOTHING IS FOR FREE.
> NOT EVEN DOLPHIN TICKETS.
>


Free dolphin tickets 4 Life!!!!!!!!!!!!

Now that would be heaven on earth.

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Re: 2017 Super Bowl in London
Posted by: eesti ()
Date: May 19, 2009 08:01AM

Leon In Denver Wrote:
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> Come on people. NOTHING in this world is free. I
> read an article that England charges about $500.00
> per person in each family per month for health
> care. This is paid in the form of taxes.

That is exactly what the blue bloods in Hartford, Connecticut want you to believe so they can continue to bleed everyone dry. UHS is not free but from what I have read it is a boatload better than the free market system. Ever since the economic decline my firm has cut back and I now have to pay for my own h.c. I pay $1000 a month for premiums and copays and still get bills from providers wanting more money for things that the insurance did not cover. That is just ridiculous. 12k a year for two people.

If you haven't already, you should rent the "Sicko" documentary. While you will have to judge for yourself what to believe, it is very enlightening.

Example 1: A woman with a employer policy took her 4 year old to hospital with 104 temp. Was turned away and almost arrested after protesting because her provider did not cover the test her kid needed. 1.5 hours later when she arrived at another hospital her daughter was pronounced dead.

Example 2: Emergency responders for 9-11 that were turned down for impossible to attain "donated charity money" and health care that suffer from lung disorders from the dust and debri and other injuries from 9-11 took a trip with Michael Moore to Cuba (that's right Cuba) where they were all treated for free at a public hospital...no questions asked. Not even citizens.

Example 3: An elderly homeless woman was refused treatment for multiple injuries (broken bones, lacerations, etc) and put in a taxi (by the hopital) and dropped off in the street in front of a homeless shelter wearing only a hospital gown in winter because she had no h.c.. She was confused and just wondered around the streets until some passers-by helped her. The footage was recorded.

Watch the movie and then tell me if your opinion changes.

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Re: 2017 Super Bowl in London
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: May 19, 2009 08:20AM

How about the woman in England with free health care and had been diagnosed with cancer and here first opportunity for an appointment was.....19 WEEKS LATER!!!

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Re: 2017 Super Bowl in London
Posted by: eesti ()
Date: May 19, 2009 08:41AM

First it was Canada and now it's England? Sounds made up to me. lol

It really can't be considered anything other than rumor unless you produce a source or other proof that this is an ongoing problem.

Could just be bureaucratic propoganda for all we know. Corporate America wants you to be..

1 in debt.
2 dependant on them.
3 willing to accept things the way they are.

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Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 05/19/2009 08:51AM by eesti.

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Re: 2017 Super Bowl in London
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: May 19, 2009 09:17AM

And what you are harping about is exactly what you want.

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Re: 2017 Super Bowl in London
Posted by: eesti ()
Date: May 19, 2009 09:23AM

So you have no source and were just spouting off then?

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Re: 2017 Super Bowl in London
Posted by: MikeO ()
Date: May 19, 2009 11:33AM


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Re: 2017 Super Bowl in London
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: May 19, 2009 11:34AM

Oh no not another food fight at the school cafeteria. AHHHHHHHHHHHHHH what the hell.


Aqua did you hear what eesti said about you.....

Go on Aqua pick up that piece of pie and fire away.

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Re: 2017 Super Bowl in London
Posted by: ranger1 ()
Date: May 19, 2009 12:33PM

You guys want free health care? Great Idea. I hear Cuba has a great system. You should go check it out. Let me know how that works out for ya.

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