gofins60 Wrote:
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> How many times did Moore lead this team to a
> come-from-behind winning score against a quality
> team, or any team for that matter? When the game
> was on the line and he needed to score for the win
> (or convert to maintain possession and hold a
> lead) he folded.

This team usually gets the go ahead score, but the defense is either out of gas or in a "prevent nothing" formation allowing opponents to score and win with the last possession.

It's either that or our coaching staff attempts to sit on a small lead by running the ball even though the opponent is continuously stuffing the box. And then there's the dropped passes right at the end that kill a drive...passes that should have been caught.

I think Moore did a respectable job with this team. We finally didn't finish the season 0-3 as in the past two years, and we got more TD's in the Red Zone.

But in the end when it's all put together, we lost a lot of games by the defense blowing coverages and having a lack of conditioning. I think Moore is getting too much criticism around here, he's not as bad as people think.

dolphaholic Wrote:
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> Aqua&Orange Wrote:
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> -----
> > Does anybody know how to post videos
> > to...Facebook?
>
>
> Hahahahahahaha
>
> I have a 60 yr old guy at work saying that all the
> time, I'm trying to catch it on my phone video so
> I can post it to Facebook.


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LOL! Glad you caught that!

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

I’m on the record and therefore I am. Matt Moore was nothing this year if not a very pleasant surprise and at least partially, a gift from the football gods. No doubt we could have done a LOT worse with Henne at the helm the entire season and probably challenged for the #1 draft slot. Oh the irony of winning when you should be losing, and of course a lot of the blame for that is Matt Moore. I mean the kid played like he wanted to actually win “meaningless” games, and through his irrelevant achievements actually made a claim he is indeed an NFL quality QB. Seriously, the nerve of this pigskin journeyman has me very concerned. For example, does he have the balls to actually believe he’s capable of starting next season and winning more games than some unproven yet highly hyped college player with a nice S on his helmet? I think NOT. But then again I am.

We all know players never improve – especially QB’s, who if not 100% certified free-range organic in R1, and best picked at the very top of R1, well – their game suffers from pesticide exposure and genetically modified spirals that are difficult to catch and easily fumbled. I for one witnessed this “artificial” aspect of Moore’s game on more than on pass. Prime example, how many genetically modified spirals did Marshall drop in the end zone? Obviously, if an organic QB (picked ripe at the top of R1) had spiraled those balls the outcome would have been entirely different, and the post-game stir fry would have tasted sweet, not sour.

All things considered, I’d take an Asian QB with great chops at the top of R1. And if there’s no one available I’d import one from a local Toyota dealership. For gads sakes, this is all too obvious and such elementary football stewardship I have waning confidence in Mr. Ross’s dietary guidelines. And we all know Ireland likes processed food with BIG heaping helpings of lard and damaged chicken wings…

It could be difficult from here. My opinion of course.

BNF.

I need a translator.......STAT

HAHAHAHAHA

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

BigNastyFish Wrote:
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lol. WHat did you have a chinese menu on your desk for lunch and decided to combine your football and menu into one...lol... I am not really sure WTF you are saying... Other then order me the sweet and sour pork and cashew chicken....lol

At first I thought Bradford was an Asian QB. But then I didn't.

I'm thinking Jeff Fisher made the same mistake.

Me throw football long time!

BNF.

Can I have some of what you all are smoking?

JC Wrote:
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> Can I have some of what you all are smoking?
>
>


You'll need a prescription...

Okay, if the question is do we pass on Luck or RGIII to keep Moore, then no.

If the question is do we commit suicide if we can't get Luck or RGIII and are left with Moore and perhaps a fifth rounder, then the answer is again no.

Do we replace Matt Moore with Flynn and trade his rights away, then again no.

Right now we should hire Philbin, Aquire Flynn, and draft Tannehill...QB position solved.

That would give us going into mini camps:

Moore
Flynn
Devlin
Tannehill
Henne

Not a bad group, IMHO, and two of them would have to be released/traded eventually anyway. BTW: Tannehill could also play some viable WR for us in certain gadget situations...he has sucessfully done it before.

That also allows us to trade down a couple of spots, add a pick or two and still get an OL, WR, TE, DE, or DB as well as Tannehill.

That would get the new coach into starting to make some egg salad and a win, win for us.

Ken Wrote:
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> Right now we should hire Philbin, Aquire Flynn,
> and draft Tannehill...QB position solved.
>
> That would give us going into mini camps:
>
> Moore
> Flynn
> Devlin
> Tannehill
> Henne
>
> Not a bad group, IMHO, and two of them would have
> to be released/traded eventually anyway. BTW:
> Tannehill could also play some viable WR for us in
> certain gadget situations...he has sucessfully
> done it before.
>
> That also allows us to trade down a couple of
> spots, add a pick or two and still get an OL, WR,
> TE, DE, or DB as well as Tannehill.
>
> That would get the new coach into starting to make
> some egg salad and a


Finding a franchise qb isn't like putting together a bullpen in MLB. It's not a job that can be done by committee. You need one really good one...not a half dozen that don't completely suck.

As for Tannehill...as a general rule of thumb...if part of your pitch for drafting a franchise qb is that he can play another position, you aren't talking about a franchise qb.

"if part of your pitch for drafting a franchise qb is that he can play another position, you aren't talking about a franchise qb."


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Bingo. Nail-in-the-coffin for Tannehill, in my book.

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

THE Truth Wrote:
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> Ken Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Right now we should hire Philbin, Aquire Flynn,
> > and draft Tannehill...QB position solved.
> >
> > That would give us going into mini camps:
> >
> > Moore
> > Flynn
> > Devlin
> > Tannehill
> > Henne
> >
> > Not a bad group, IMHO, and two of them would
> have
> > to be released/traded eventually anyway. BTW:
> > Tannehill could also play some viable WR for us
> in
> > certain gadget situations...he has sucessfully
> > done it before.
> >
> > That also allows us to trade down a couple of
> > spots, add a pick or two and still get an OL,
> WR,
> > TE, DE, or DB as well as Tannehill.
> >
> > That would get the new coach into starting to
> make
> > some egg salad and a
>
>
> Finding a franchise qb isn't like putting together
> a bullpen in MLB. It's not a job that can be
> done by committee. You need one really good
> one...not a half dozen that don't completely
> suck.
>
> As for Tannehill...as a general rule of thumb...if
> part of your pitch for drafting a franchise qb is
> that he can play another position, you aren't
> talking about a franchise qb.

Thank you. Ken's comment made me spit out my coffee.

Did you ever see marino play? If you have never seen great play from the qb position, then you would not no what a good qb looks like. So thats why matt moore looks great to you.

Dan Marino was the first (and only!) true Ninja QB and capable of slicing dicing mincing and stir frying DB’s until their bok choy wilted and begged for mercy.

Point of fact1: we ain’t never gonna get us another one of those Ninja dudes
so put the kool-aid down and start slammin’ tequila.

Point of fact2: The Ninja QB factory in Western PA was vulture capitalized, dismantled and outsourced to China (reportedly, the factory was reassembled on a rural peeking duck farm).

BNF.

BigNastyFish Wrote:
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> Point of fact2: The Ninja QB factory in Western PA
> was vulture capitalized, dismantled and outsourced
> to China (reportedly, the factory was reassembled
> on a rural peeking duck farm).
>
> BNF.

oh THAT's where all the Asian QB talk comes from. Sorry I'm a little slow...you know...American public school sytem.

A&O, define "journeyman" from your point of view. As far as I'm concerned, the only thing I DIDN"T see from this kid this year was the ability to bring his team back from the brink of defeat. That's not saying he can't do it, it's just saying he didn't get a chance that he stayed healthy for. A franchise QB has GOT to be able to do that. If he shows me that he can, I think he's our guy, and not just a "journeyman".

Rick

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> Would you say Henne was worse than Moore? I
> would.

Ironically, Henne's stats in his first 3 starts in Daboll's offense were better than Moore's 1st 3 starts. Who knows what Henne would have accomplished as the rest of the team got used to the new play book.

Henne: 61 comp - 108 att (56.5% comp)...841 yards 4 td, 3 INT.

Moore: 51 comp - 89 att (57% comp)...539 yards, 1TD 3 INT

Well I figure 3 teams in 5 years and losing your starting job after 1 year constituets as a journeyman. Bu

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

Yo Truth, you forgot the football idiot index in your stats!

Henne was 98.675% certified nationally in this critical category.

Moore was only 74.335% in the same category.

Also…

According to National Geographic, Henne received 9 and a half “stars” on the Sloth index (10 is “100% pure Sloth” and protected by the SPCA).

Moore registered a mere 2 stars on the same index.

So get your facts straight. My opinion of course.

BNF.

I love the fact that we live in a country where people like me do what I do in the places I do it in...so people can sit back and smoke whatever it is you are smoking on to have you come up with the outstanding comments you do....and I smile everytime I read them because they just make me shake my head and laugh.....God Bless the USA!

Yeah, the Truth. But if I have not misinterpreted your stats, I don't think that NASA scientists would agree that this was such a significant indicator of performance.

What you are saying is that in this Season (or are you talking about, in Henne's case, three games of last season), Henne posted better numbers before he was hurt than Moore did for the first three games when he came in.

Mind you you are speaking to Henne's biggest supporter on this board but the fact remains that Henne was on this team for THREE YEARS and Moore had, as had Daboll, just started with this team.

So I don't know how meaningful a comparison that is. I'd say that an old quarterback on the same team working with the same other players even with a new OC SHOULD STILL BE EXPECTED to out-perform a new quarterback coming from a different team working with the same new OC.

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> Yeah, the Truth. But if I have not misinterpreted
> your stats, I don't think that NASA scientists
> would agree that this was such a significant
> indicator of performance.
>
> What you are saying is that in this Season (or are
> you talking about, in Henne's case, three games of
> last season), Henne posted better numbers before
> he was hurt than Moore did for the first three
> games when he came in.
>
> Mind you you are speaking to Henne's biggest
> supporter on this board but the fact remains that
> Henne was on this team for THREE YEARS and Moore
> had, as had Daboll, just started with this team.
>
> So I don't know how meaningful a comparison that
> is. I'd say that an old quarterback on the same
> team working with the same other players even with
> a new OC SHOULD STILL BE EXPECTED to out-perform a
> new quarterback coming from a different team
> working with the same new OC.


Henne and Moore had both been in the league for 3-4 years and had started prior to this season.

Moore had been exposed to Daboll's offense while at Carolina.

If anything, Henne was at a DISADVANTAGE having to learn an entirely new system without an off-season of coaching to help with that transition.

I'm not saying Henne is better or Moore is better. Frankly, I think they both suck at playing the role of a franchise QB.

All I'm saying is that moore got to play with an offensive unit that had more time to get on the same page. Henne did not, and his stats were still better.

If either of them is our starter next year, and there is no high draft pick in the pipeline behind them, we are screwed.

Dolphinmark you are way way way off base.

The offense was simplified for him??? where hold did you pull that out of ? he made more throws down field this year the Henne did all combined.

I did not see any throw he could not make. He made all the throws and made all the reads.

As far as 2010 he got concussion in first game, the injured later on.

Also Smith was out most of the year and he had no one to throw too.

his Dolphins teammates seem to rally around him. I like Moore as our QB

Brady was a journeyman until Bledsoe was hurt.