DOLPHINS: Brown's DUI (was RE: [Miami Dolphins' Ronnie Brown...)

[Rick]

I can't speak for other states but in California you are asked at the 
roadside (where the arrest was made) what test you want to do. If you say 
breath and I take you to the station to take the breath test and if you 
refuse to blow, that is a refusal and you are going to have your drivers 
license suspended for a minimum of a year and you are going to get at least 
2 extra days in jail. In Fairfield you are then taken to a hospital where a 
blood draw will be conducted (like it or not). The whole asking for a breath 
test and then asking for blood hoping that your BAC will be lower only works 
if you stopped drinking at least an hour before the car stop. Otherwise your 
BAC may still be rising.

Rick

----- Original Message ----- 
From: "ldouglas" <ldouglas at gmail.com>
To: "Miami Dolphins Discussion" <dolphins-disc at phins.com>
Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 9:46 PM
Subject: Re: DOLPHINS: Brown's DUI (was RE: [Miami Dolphins' Ronnie 
Brown...)


so why do some people say "don't blow" - I'd always thought that was
standard advice (as the BAC would go down once you go to the
station/hospital) until I heard, as Patrick says, the DUI charge will
be there no matter what if you refuse.

not that this is a problem for me anymore but it would still be nice to 
know.

On 3/24/10, Rick <mroz66 at comcast.net> wrote:
> Patrick,
>
>     Couldn't disagree more with some of your comments. Over the past three
> years I have conducted over 2000 DUI investigations. If you have only
> consumed one or two drinks you have nothing to fear with regards to SFST 
> or
> a breath or blood test. IMO, it is to your benefit to take the chemical 
> test
> if you know you have not consumed enough alcohol to blow an .08. As for
> SFST, my experience is that they are easy for sober people to perform,
> impaired people... not so easy. :~)
>
>     I don't know about other states but in California you are required to
> give a chemical sample (blood or breath). If you refuse you we can do a
> force blood draw (not all cities allow that but mine does). So either way 
> I
> am going to get a sample.
>
> Rick
>
>
>
> ----- Original Message -----
> From: "Patrick McLaughlin" <pluvlaw at hotmail.com>
> To: <dolphins-disc at phins.com>
> Sent: Tuesday, March 23, 2010 4:23 PM
> Subject: DOLPHINS: Brown's DUI (was RE: [Miami Dolphins' Ronnie Brown...)
>
>
>
> Sorry, I'm commenting on this late, but it doesn't take much to fail FSTs.
> It's an abnormal activity you ask someone to perform in an abnormal
> situation.  While not familiar with GA DUI law, I can tell you that in SC 
> if
> you "failed" your FSTs, you're gonna get arrested for DUI.  And most
> everyone and their mother knows, you simply DO NOT BLOW when pulled.  I
> don't care if I had drank only one beer, I would never blow.  FWIW, with 
> the
> emphasis on DUI in law enforcement now, it's going to be harder and harder
> to find people going forward who have not had one.  Here in SC, they
> literally give special cars to the cops who write the most DUIs.  It's 
> like
> door prizes.
> If Ronnie knows what he's doing, he has hired Bubba Head to represent him.
> Head is the DUI guy in GA.
>
> Patrick, getting down verbally...
>
>
>
>> Date: Mon, 22 Mar 2010 15:49:48 -0400
>> From: cheesefrog at usa.net
>> To: dolphins-disc at phins.com
>> Subject: Re: DOLPHINS: [Miami Dolphins' Ronnie Brown is arrested for 
>> DUI -
>>
>> Miami Dolphins - MiamiHerald.com]
>>
>> To reiterate Randy's comment, that (weaving) would make him not unlike
>> every
>> other car on the road.
>>
>> I find it interesting that this story got no local press at all.  I heard
>> nothing on the Atlanta TV or radio, nor in the weekend paper.  I also
>> couldn't
>> find a thing in either the Atlanta or Cartersville online newspapers.
>>
>> Ronnie is a local hero in Cartersville.  Curious the lack of media
>> attention
>> there.  Makes me wonder if the charges will indeed be discounted.
>>
>> ------ Original Message ------
>> From: ldouglas <ldouglas at gmail.com>
>>
>> > he was probably weaving too
>> >
>> > On 3/22/10, Salas, Randy <Randy.Salas at startribune.com> wrote:
>> > > The weird thing is that he was pulled over for failing to use his 
>> > > turn
>> > > signal to indicate a lane change. That describes basically every 
>> > > other
>> car
>> > > on the freeway on my 20-mile commute to and from work every day. I
>> > > wonder
>> > > what his BAC was.
>> > >
>> > > -----Original Message-----
>> > > From: dolphins-disc-bounces at phins.com
>> > > [mailto:dolphins-disc-bounces at phins.com] On Behalf Of Bill Morrow
>> > > Sent: Sunday, March 21, 2010 11:35 PM
>> > > To: Miami Dolphins Discussion
>> > > Subject: Re: DOLPHINS: [Miami Dolphins' Ronnie Brown is arrested for
>> > > DUI
>> -
>> > > Miami Dolphins - MiamiHerald.com]
>> > >
>> > > You really don't understand human nature and the denial of people 
>> > > that
>> drink
>> > > and drive.  90% of the people that leave a bar after drinking are
>> > > drunk
>> > > enough that they have no business drinking but they do it anyway
>> > > because
>> > > they aren't too drunk to drive, "that only happens to other people".
>> > >
>> > > Just because he has money does not mean that he is any more
>> > > responsible
>> than
>> > > anyone else when it comes to drinking and driving.  It comes back to
>> > > the
>> > > thing about believing that he isn't too drunk to drive.  Money 
>> > > doesn't
>> make
>> > > you smarter or give you the ability to use more common sense, it only
>> makes
>> > > you richer.
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > >
>> > > On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 9:38 PM, Richie Wohlers
>> > > <richiewohlers at gmail.com>wrote:
>> > >
>> > >> I just don't get it.  If you're making millions per year, and you 
>> > >> had
>> > >> a few drinks why don't you just call a limo?  I know when I've been
>> > >> in
>> > >> similar situations it's a tougher call because finding cab fare when
>> > >> I
>> > >> was 24 was not the easiest thing.
>> > >>
>> > >> On Sun, Mar 21, 2010 at 7:36 PM, ldouglas <ldouglas at gmail.com> 
>> > >> wrote:
>> > >> > [Miami Dolphins' Ronnie Brown is arrested for DUI - Miami
>> > >> > Dolphins -
>> > >> > MiamiHerald.com]
>> > >> >
>> > >> >
>> > >>
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>> > >
>> > > I may grow old but I will never grow up!
>> > > You don't get too old to play games; you get old when you quit.
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