DOLPHINS: Combine report

Ldouglas ldouglas at gmail.com
Wed Mar 3 01:12:56 GMT 2010


Deion compared him to Louis Oliver - which surprised me a bit

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From: dolfandave at att.net
Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 4:46 PM
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Subject: Re: DOLPHINS: Combine report

Taylor Mays..........don't want him anywhere near our facility unless it's to sell beer.

ddave
-------------- Original message from "jp" <spartacusii at kc.rr.com>: -------------- 


> Perhaps not - but the kid had to have been FLYING. The last thing I 
> expected to see was someone closing on this kid while he was anywhere near 
> full speed. & by that end of the field, with as many yards as had been run, 
> I seriously doubt that it was due to an angle. 
> 
> I see some S ran 4.24 unofficially today? I know it said it was unofficial, 
> but what surprised me was they had the player listed as a S. I would have 
> expected to see that from a CB, but not a S 
> 
> jp 
> 
> www.jprescottphoto.com 
> 
> 
> > -----Original Message----- 
> > From: dolphins-disc-bounces at phins.com [mailto:dolphins-disc- 
> > bounces at phins.com] On Behalf Of Patrick McLaughlin 
> > Sent: Tuesday, March 02, 2010 6:51 AM 
> > To: dolphins-disc at phins.com 
> > Subject: Re: DOLPHINS: Combine report 
> > 
> > 
> > It's some Duke player. You'll never hear from him again:-) 
> > 
> > Patrick, getting down verbally... 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > > From: spartacusii at kc.rr.com 
> > > To: dolphins-disc at phins.com 
> > > Date: Tue, 2 Mar 2010 02:25:35 -0600 
> > > Subject: Re: DOLPHINS: Combine report 
> > > 
> > > I enjoyed watching these clips. You always dream at this time of year 
> about 
> > > a LOT of guys you'd love to see on your team. Some of them make it in 
> the 
> > > NFL, while others were just a college flash in the pan. But this kid 
> looks 
> > > like he should be a keeper. 
> > > 
> > > The thing I have learned over the years, tho, is once they make it to 
> the 
> > > NFL, all of a sudden, the speed advantage they enjoyed in college is 
> thinned 
> > > out. 
> > > 
> > > Something I noticed, tho, in this clip at about the 7:27-7:28 point - 
> > > spiller is about to score after a long run. But there is a defender that 
> is 
> > > closing in on him pretty fast, & it doesn't appear to me that spiller 
> has 
> > > pulled up yet. So whoever that defender is, is pretty fast. I'd love to 
> > > know who that was. 
> > > 
> > > jp 
> > > 
> > > www.jprescottphoto.com 
> > > 
> > > > -----Original Message----- 
> > > > From: dolphins-disc-bounces at phins.com [mailto:dolphins-disc- 
> > > > bounces at phins.com] On Behalf Of Patrick McLaughlin 
> > > > Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 1:52 PM 
> > > > To: dolphins-disc at phins.com 
> > > > Subject: Re: DOLPHINS: Combine report 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > This Spiller link has better quality video. But watch and see how many 
> > > times the 
> > > > DBs are way out in front of him and taking angles that he just blows 
> by. 
> > > Speed 
> > > > really does kill. 
> > > > http://www.youtube.com/watch?v=pueH5Wv021M 
> > > > 
> > > > Patrick, getting down verbally... 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > 
> > > > > From: pluvlaw at hotmail.com 
> > > > > To: dolphins-disc at phins.com 
> > > > > Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 14:24:58 -0500 
> > > > > Subject: Re: DOLPHINS: Combine report 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > DBs have not gone. You know, Berry is really interesting. If he 
> falls 
> > > to 12, I 
> > > > would really like to think we have to take him, right? That kid is the 
> > > closest thing to 
> > > > Ed Reed I've seen. But his size will hurt him against Parcells, right? 
> > > > > If the DBs go Tuesday, then I think the weigh in and measurements 
> will 
> > > be 
> > > > Monday, right? Seems like they do the measuring and weight lifting one 
> > > day, the 
> > > > running and drills the next. 
> > > > > FYI, Toby Gerhardt just ran an unofficial 4.53, very good for him. 
> > > There was a 
> > > > good report out this weekend where Gerhardt laughed that he always 
> gets 
> > > > compared to white RBs like Riggins or Alstott (which is a complete 
> > > joke--he is way 
> > > > more of a RB than Alstott), when he really always liked to think he 
> > > patterned his 
> > > > style after Corey Dillon. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > Patrick, getting down verbally... 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > 
> > > > > > From: mroz66 at comcast.net 
> > > > > > To: dolphins-disc at phins.com 
> > > > > > Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 10:58:53 -0800 
> > > > > > Subject: Re: DOLPHINS: Combine report 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Patrick, do you know if they have done the DB's yet? I am 
> wondering 
> > > how tall 
> > > > > > and how much Earl Thomas weighs. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > Rick 
> > > > > > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > > > > > From: "Patrick McLaughlin" 
> > > > > > To: 
> > > > > > Sent: Sunday, February 28, 2010 10:55 AM 
> > > > > > Subject: Re: DOLPHINS: Combine report 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > And...turns out Spiller just ran the 40 and did not do any 
> drills. 
> > > Citing 
> > > > > > > a "toe issue" which, btw, he had all this past season. Either 
> the 
> > > toe is 
> > > > > > > really hurt, which is scary in and of itself or CJ is just being 
> a 
> > > drama 
> > > > > > > queen (which I think he does have issues with). 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > Patrick, getting down verbally... 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > > 
> > > > > > >> To: dolphins-disc at phins.com 
> > > > > > >> Date: Sun, 28 Feb 2010 10:35:01 -0500 
> > > > > > >> From: dougswub at aol.com 
> > > > > > >> Subject: Re: DOLPHINS: Combine report 
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> Spillers is a speedster, for sure. I just think we need big 
> guys 
> > > right 
> > > > > > >> now. 
> > > > > > >> I remember watching all the highlights of Ginn and 
> thinking..."wow, 
> > > what 
> > > > > > >> speed he has, we need that". 
> > > > > > >> Then he shows up in the NFL, and he's a 1 trick pony. Has 
> speed, 
> > > if no 
> > > > > > >> one touches him. 
> > > > > > >> I do agree 100%....I dislike spending a 1st round pick on a 
> > > receiver. 
> > > > > > >> Unless it's Jerry Rice. 
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> -----Original Message----- 
> > > > > > >> From: Patrick McLaughlin 
> > > > > > >> To: dolphins-disc at phins.com 
> > > > > > >> Sent: Sun, Feb 28, 2010 10:00 am 
> > > > > > >> Subject: Re: DOLPHINS: Combine report 
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> Let me clarify, I don't want the Phins to draft Campbell (we 
> don't 
> > > need 
> > > > > > >> to spend 
> > > > > > >> such a high pick on the OL and I trust Mayock more than any 
> draft 
> > > guy and 
> > > > > > >> Mayock 
> > > > > > >> is not sold on Campbell). Nor do I think we need to spend a 1st 
> or 
> > > even 
> > > > > > >> 2nd day 
> > > > > > >> pick (remember it's three days this year) on the OL. But I am 
> > > hopeful 
> > > > > > >> that the 
> > > > > > >> depth makes some decent projects fall and I would like for us 
> to 
> > > grab one 
> > > > > > >> in the 
> > > > > > >> later rounds (Carey ain't getting any younger or slimmer). My 
> > > focus on 
> > > > > > >> the OL 
> > > > > > >> and TEs was b/c that's all that went yesterday. 
> > > > > > >> I admit, Spiller would be tempting. In call candor, if it was 
> > > taking a 
> > > > > > >> WR or 
> > > > > > >> Spiller in round 1, I prefer Spiller. The way offenses are now, 
> > > > > > >> especially our 
> > > > > > >> offense, I think we could find ways to get a RB like Spiller 
> the 
> > > ball. I 
> > > > > > >> have 
> > > > > > >> no problem believing Spiller could line up in the slot or be a 
> > > motioning 
> > > > > > >> WR and 
> > > > > > >> be successful as a combo WR/RB like that. 
> > > > > > >> Having watched Spiller's career, I readily admit he is a once 
> in a 
> > > > > > >> lifetime kind 
> > > > > > >> of talent who I am damn glad has left Clem & Son University. My 
> > > one 
> > > > > > >> concern 
> > > > > > >> with Spiller is health. And I'm not so sure it's his actual 
> health 
> > > as 
> > > > > > >> much as 
> > > > > > >> it's his penchant for a little drama over his health. Sorry to 
> any 
> > > > > > >> Clemson 
> > > > > > >> fans, but CJ is a bit of a drama queen. Having said that, he is 
> > > > > > >> absolutely 
> > > > > > >> deadly to defenses. Spiller is so fast, he ruins angles. 
> > > > > > >> One guy to watch out for today is Ole Miss RB Dexter McCluster. 
> He 
> > > > > > >> strikes me 
> > > > > > >> as a Sproles clone and Sparano and Co reportedly fell in love 
> with 
> > > him in 
> > > > > > >> Mobile. 
> > > > > > >> Either way, I think I would rather have Miami draft one of 
> those 
> > > guys 
> > > > > > >> early than 
> > > > > > >> any of the WRs who are slotted to go early. I just don't feel 
> good 
> > > about 
> > > > > > >> Bryant. Maybe that's just Deion's stink. But whatever it is, I 
> > > would 
> > > > > > >> rather 
> > > > > > >> have one of these RB/WR guys than him. 
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> Patrick, getting down verbally... 
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> 
> > > > > > >> > From: thebigfish at smunet.net 
> > > > > > >> > To: dolphins-disc at phins.com 
> > > > > > >> > Date: Sat, 27 Feb 2010 22:13:50 -0600 
> > > > > > >> > Subject: Re: DOLPHINS: Combine report 
> > > > > > >> > 
> > > > > > >> > Pluv, we have some pressing needs on defense, so part of me 
> > > doubts we 
> > > > > > >> > go for a OL with the first pick. 
> > > > > > >> > 
> > > > > > >> > However, for those of you that know me, nothing would make me 
> > > happier 
> > > > > > >> > than drafting one more dominating OL like Campbell. Put him 
> and 
> > > Long 
> > > > > > >> > on the same line you not only get a dominating running game 
> > > without 
> > > > > > >> > the Wildcat, you just made the job of opposing DC a living 
> hell. 
> > > Rex 
> > > > > > >> > Ryan will be reduced to performing unnatural sex acts in the 
> > > Bronx 
> > > > > > >> > against this kind of OL. Blitz packages? I kind of doubt it. 
> It 
> > > would 
> > > > > > >> > be very hard to stop the ground game. 
> > > > > > >> > 
> > > > > > >> > These things rarely happen. But it would be nice..... 
> > > > > > >> > 
> > > > > > >> > Michael 
> > > > > > >> > 
> > > > > > >> > 
> > > > > > >> > On Feb 27, 2010, at 5:32 PM, Patrick McLaughlin wrote: 
> > > > > > >> > 
> > > > > > >> > > 
> > > > > > >> > > So, nursing a hangover, I have sat here and pretty much 
> just 
> > > watched 
> > > > > > >> > > the NFL Combine (and news reports from Chile and Hawaii) 
> all 
> > > day. 
> > > > > > >> > > Here's my take on the buzz: 
> > > > > > >> > > -LT Bruce Campbell (MD) blew it out. The 6'6" 314 lb fella 
> > > looks 
> > > > > > >> > > like a beast. He ran a 4.85 official 40 (4.78 unofficial 
> was 
> > > what 
> > > > > > >> > > the NFL Network crew had at the time) and rocked 34 reps of 
> 225 
> > > > > > >> > > lbs. Not sure what he got on the vertical, but it was 
> pretty 
> > > damn 
> > > > > > >> > > high. The NFLN guys were thinking he may have beat the 
> record 
> > > for 
> > > > > > >> > > OL (I just looked on the website and it says 32", which I 
> think 
> > > the 
> > > > > > >> > > NFLN guys said record was 34" for an OL). He looked fluid 
> in 
> > > the 
> > > > > > >> > > drills, but as Mayock pointed out, you don't see this 
> translate 
> > > on 
> > > > > > >> > > the game tape. He came up and spoke with the NFLN crew. I 
> > > thought 
> > > > > > >> > > he was pretty weak when Davis asked him how he responded to 
> > > being 
> > > > > > >> > > called "boom or bust." I find it hard to believe he was not 
> > > coached 
> > > > > > >> > > some on his lack of production at the college level would 
> be an 
> > > > > > >> > > issue and he should have been able to handle that question 
> > > better 
> > > > > > >> > > than claiming not to have heard that (which Davis quickly 
> > > retorted 
> > > > > > >> > > by telling him "well...you heard it just now, I'm telling! 
> > > > > > >> > > you") then giving some lame answer about everyone coming in 
> > > with a 
> > > > > > >> > > blank slate now. He's gonna go high b/c he is a physical 
> > > freak. 
> > > > > > >> > > Seriously, if this guy has any hands at all, he'd be an 
> > > unbelievable 
> > > > > > >> > > TE. 
> > > > > > >> > > -Pitts TE/WR/H-back Dorin Dickerson also blew it out. 6'4" 
> 226 
> > > lb 
> > > > > > >> > > Panther is really more like a WR and it showed as he ran an 
> > > official 
> > > > > > >> > > 4.40 40. 
> > > > > > >> > > -OT Russell Okung of OSU was impressive. Dude looks 
> extremely 
> > > fluid 
> > > > > > >> > > for such a big guy. 
> > > > > > >> > > 
> > > > > > >> > > -Trindon Holliday ran an official 4.34 40. Schefter tweeted 
> it 
> > > as 
> > > > > > >> > > 4.22 which would be faster than Chris Johnson's 4.24 from 
> two 
> > > years 
> > > > > > >> > > ago. In all candor, these 40 "times" are crazy. Uh...how 
> can 
> > > a 
> > > > > > >> > > human being start/stop a stopwatch accurately down to those 
> > > > > > >> > > fractions? They can't. 
> > > > > > >> > > 
> > > > > > >> > > Overall, I have to say the OT and TE class looks really 
> good. 
> > > I 
> > > > > > >> > > think the TE class is particularly good for us. I think we 
> > > could 
> > > > > > >> > > pick up a really good prospect late and I think there will 
> two 
> > > or 
> > > > > > >> > > three undrafted FAs that contribute in the league this 
> year. 
> > > With 
> > > > > > >> > > the depth at OT, I'd like to see us grab a prospect late to 
> > > groom 
> > > > > > >> > > and add depth. Charlie Casserly was saying the consensus 
> among 
> > > the 
> > > > > > >> > > league is that, overall, this is the best draft class in 
> three 
> > > > > > >> > > decades. The amount of legit first round talent is 
> considered 
> > > > > > >> > > especially deep. What does this mean for us? I think it 
> means 
> > > a 
> > > > > > >> > > trade for Boldin is even less likely to occur. With the way 
> > > the 
> > > > > > >> > > Trifecta values draft picks, I don't see them trading away 
> any 
> > > in a 
> > > > > > >> > > class considered this rich in talent. If anything, I think 
> it 
> > > > > > >> > > increases the odds that someone thought to go high drops 
> and 
> > > the 
> > > > > > >> > > Trifecta tries to wheel and deal down to pick up more 
> picks. 
> > > It's 
> > > > > > >> > > starting to feel like we have a good chance of not drafting 
> at 
> > > #12. 
> > > > > > >> > > Patrick, getting down verbally... 
> > > > > > >> > > 
> > > > > > >> > > 
> > > > > > >> > > 
> > > > 
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