DOLPHINS: Welker hurt Knee

[Salas, Randy]

Lex Hilliard and Nate Garner weren't on the active roster either last year, and they did pretty well this season. I'm not saying that Patrick Turner will be any good. But it's impossible to say he's a bust -- based on things that could only be observed in games -- just because he wasn't on the active roster at a deep position in his first year.

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From: dolphins-disc-bounces at phins.com [mailto:dolphins-disc-bounces at phins.com] On Behalf Of Dolfandave at att.net
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I  haven't seen him not be able to separate bec I haven't seen him on the field. That's the problem. I am pretty skeptical we would keep him off the active roster just bec he can't play special teams. I mean Chad Johnson or Terrell Owens don't cover kickoffs. If he could contribute he would be out there. I don't recall where I read that but that is the rumor. Yes, I do believe he is a bust simply bec if that is the problem w/ him I can't see him all of the sudden get so much better at it. I recall Mark Duper and Clayton (Duper in his third year in fact) became great players but they had the speed and athletic ability. David Shula spent an offseason working w/ them and they improved dramatically. I remember Raiders CB Lester Hayes commenting about Clayton looking like a completely different player between a preseason game in Clayton's rookie year and their game in late 1984. I don't know how you can make a guy that much quicker over time.

ddave
-------------- Original message from "Salas, Randy" <Randy.Salas at startribune.com>: --------------

Patrick Turner hasn't even played in a game yet, but you know he's a bust? By most acounts, he hasn't been playing because he can't contribute (yet) on
> special teams. When have you seen him not be able to separate as a Dolphin?
>
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> I disagree w/ you. They are very bad, amongst the worst if not the worst in the NFL. I have no problem w/ how the Trifecta has approached this position. It is the easiest to fill so they waited until the end. Patrick Turner looks like a bust. I say that now bec I have a hard time believing he will learn to create separation over the next few months. We could use a "True No 1" and a "True No
> 2" in a perfect world but getting one guy is pivotal.
>
> ddave
> -------------- Original message from dfin 13 :
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>
>
> > I really think the WRs took an undeserved beating this year. Are they the best
> crop out there? No, but they're not chickenshit either. Like you said, get a
> true #1 -- we'll see these other guys start to shine in the roles they're best
> suited for. Not to mention they were catching passes from a 1st year starter who
> hasn't quite learned how to harness his arm strength, and has some accuracy
> > issues. I can't really think of one of the 3 I'd want to see gone next season.
> > Hartline is raw, but he has a lot of potential. He also is one of the only
> guys on offense who seems to get really fired up after a big play, I love that.
> Doesn't hop around like an idiot for show like some do, but focuses the
> > excitement towards his teammates to rally them.
> >
> > > From: Randy.Salas at startribune.com
> > > To: dolphins-disc at phins.com
> > > Date: Mon, 4 Jan 2010 14:25:07 -0600
> > > Subject: Re: DOLPHINS: Welker hurt Knee
> > > > It's worth noting that Bess finished the season tied at No. 4 (with OJ
> > McDuffie!) for the most receptions in a season for the Dolphins.
> > >
> > > And, actually, Camarillo and Hartline always impress me with their effort,
> > too. If the Dolphins simply were to replace Ginn with a true No. 1 WR, I think
> > the Dolphins would be in pretty good shape with the rest of the current guys
> as
> > complements. They could be even more effective with a top-line player to draw
> > coverage.
> > >
> > > FWIW, Hartline finished the season averaging 16.3 yards a catch -- 4.5 yards
> > more than the next guy (Ginn). Hartline also averaged 5.6 yards after catch
> (vs.
> > Ginn's 1.3 YAC).
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > -----Original Message-----
> > > From: dolphins-disc-bounces at phins.com
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> > On Behalf Of Danny Nelson
> > > Sent: Monday, January 04, 2010 2:07 PM
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> > > Subject: Re: DOLPHINS: Welker hurt Knee
> > >
> > > We already have a guy like that on the team. His name is Davone Bess.
> > >
> > > ------ Original Message ------
> > > From: "jp"
> > >
> > > > I would give anything to have a guy play like that on
> > > > our team.
> > >
> > >
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