DOLPHINS: Dolphins' decision worked out for Brees
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Wed Feb 3 19:48:43 GMT 2010
He didn't pick offensive talent well in Miami, but he found Aikman, Emmitt, and Irvin in Dallas, along with some other strong offensive talent. I think luck plays a lot more into all of this than we like to admit.
As for Shula, he was obviously a great coach---quite possibly the best of all time. But it was pretty clear when he left that it was time. There was a lot of mediocrity in Miami over the last 15 years of Shula's reign. I think where Huizenga really messed up was talking JJ back into coaching when he tried to retire. That's what brought Wanny in, which wasn't completely insane at the time, but it kept the team from starting over and doing a real job search the next year, which would've been the smart way to go (though, to be fair, Wanny did a good job as a HC in 2001). Then, Huizenga kept Wanny at least one year too long, if not two. Saban was a no-brainer at the time. And of course, Cameron was a complete disaster---I'd argue he did more damage in one year than Wanny did in 5.... but I have to admit, I did not see that coming when Cameron was hired.
And again, luck plays such a big part. One of the interesting things in that Cole article was the speculation that Saban would've stayed in Miami if Brees had worked out. So many little things make such a big difference.
> From: thebigfish at smunet.net
> Date: Wed, 3 Feb 2010 13:29:39 -0600
> To: dolphins-disc at phins.com
> Subject: Re: DOLPHINS: Dolphins' decision worked out for Brees
> As has been discussed many times before, Shula had Joe Thomas to pick
> talent for the legendary teams. Joe left and rebuilt the Niners, and
> coming back when he died of a heart attack.
> My point had nothing to do with talent. JJ could pick defensive
> talent, but was terrible at picking O talent. He was almost as
> useless getting a O to work.
> Great defensive mind? Yes. Pick defensive talent? Yes. But JJ was
> terrible at the rest of it. Shula was a better coach if only because
> he could take what
> he had and make a good team out of it. No one since then has come
> close imho...
> On Feb 3, 2010, at 12:55 PM, dolfandave at att.net wrote:
> > Shula made more than his share of misfires in personnel. He was NOT
> > a good talent judge.
> > 1st rounders:
> > Eric Kumerow 1988
> > Jackie Shipp 1984
> > Sammie Smith 1991
> > Billy Milner 1995
> > 2nd rounders:
> > Eddie Blake
> > Andrew Greene
> > I give him a pass in 1987 for John Bosa due to injury though he
> > drafted Rick Graf in the 2nd round. He also made a good move w/
> > Hugh Green in 1986 before he got hurt. Had to give up a No 1 for
> > him though I believe. Also signed TE Eric Green in FA, traded for
> > Bobby Humphrey. Also CB Don McNeal was a great player until he hurt
> > his achilles among other things. Lorenzo Hampton was "ok" in 1985
> > but only played a short time.
> > ddave
> > -------------- Original message from Michael Fischer
> > <thebigfish at smunet.net>: --------------
> >> Depressing when one realizes all the mistakes the Dolphin's
> >> organization has made since they fired Shula. I'm glad for the
> >> current
> >> leadership and proud of Shula..everyone in between SUCKS.
> >> Michael
> >> On Feb 3, 2010, at 8:17 AM, Phinias wrote:
> >>>> http://sports.yahoo.com/nfl/news;_ylt=AvI0UThx7JyZBFogjQ_bl.
> >>>> 1DubYF?slug=jc-brees
> >> decision020110&prov=yhoo&type=lgns
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