DOLPHINS: Ginns hands

dolfandave at att.net dolfandave at att.net
Wed Oct 28 04:35:06 GMT 2009


Well ok, they should have given him a few for us too then :). 

ddave
-------------- Original message from "PJ Bimonte" <listserv at bimonte.net>: -------------- 


> In his defense there he wasn't exactly celebrating the kickoff return, he 
> got destroyed by his own team! 
> 
> -----Original Message----- 
> From: dolphins-disc-bounces at phins.com 
> [mailto:dolphins-disc-bounces at phins.com] On Behalf Of dolfandave at att.net 
> Sent: Monday, October 26, 2009 11:13 PM 
> To: Miami Dolphins Discussion 
> Subject: Re: DOLPHINS: Ginns hands 
> 
> I don't think he could run at the combine bec of a bad foot he suffered 
> celebrating the opening kickoff return for a td vs Florida. To think if he 
> didn't suffer that injury now that I think about it he would have run at the 
> combine and done more for workouts and maybe? we would have seen how much 
> work he had to do as a route runner. Remember he was also coming out the 
> year AFTER Devin Hester had a huge rookie year, sigh, bad timing for us I 
> guess. Plus factor in Cam knew his FAMILY so he was biased and that was the 
> one year he was our head coach. Ugh, what a disasterous chain of events for 
> us. It takes a long time to overcome a blown first round pick. In college, I 
> gotta say, he was a tremendous kick return man, arguably one of the best 
> ever. He also did show great play making ability in college but back then he 
> had more confidence. Now he collects a big check no matter what and he sees 
> people like Ray Lewis on the field and he loses his 
> cough........cough......... 
> 
> ddave 
> -------------- Original message from "Danny Nelson" : 
> -------------- 
> 
> 
> > I would feel more comfortable with a free agent WR, depending on who is 
> > available of course, while perhaps still looking to the draft for one as 
> > well. 
> > 
> > What I can't understand, is how a guy like Ginn can become a first round 
> pick 
> > when he can't catch. Did he go to the Combine? Did everyone think he could 
> 
> > catch or was it just the Dolphins who were fooled? I just don't get it. 
> > 
> > ------ Original Message ------ 
> > From: dolfandave at att.net 
> > 
> > > Bottom line it on Teddy, he just plays scared. It happened yesterday 
> batting 
> > the ball to Sharper, the play we could least afford a pick six. It 
> happened 
> > last year in the Ravens playoff game where he "felt" Ray Lewis and then 
> blew 
> > the handoff from Pennington. You just can't play scared. It's like the 
> > shortstop who turns his head on a ground ball, it's going to hit you if 
> it's 
> > going to hit you, turning your head isn't going to help. He is a pup that 
> > hasn't bit and it's year three, therefore during this coming offseason 
> it's 
> > Goodbye Teddy. 
> > > 
> > > Shipley among others would be fine w/ me. There are a good handful of 
> > receivers in the top two rounds as usual and also NFL Free Agency. 
> > > 
> > > ddave 
> > > -------------- Original message from "D.P. Frog" : 
> > -------------- 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > > 
> > > > Replace with one Jordan Shipley ( Texas ) might be a tad slower @ 4.4 
> 40 
> > > > but he can catch and KNOWS how to get open.. btw 1" and 10# bigger 
> than 
> > Ginn 
> > > > 
> > > > dave 
> > > > 
> > > > > Date: Mon, 26 Oct 2009 09:11:59 -0400 
> > > > > From: ldouglas at gmail.com 
> > > > > To: dolphins-disc at phins.com 
> > > > > Subject: Re: DOLPHINS: Ginns hands 
> > > > > 
> > > > > he also doesn't "shake defenders" - he only runs straight fast. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > more speedy Big-10 big fish in the small NFL pond. 
> > > > > 
> > > > > On 10/25/09, Danny Nelson wrote: 
> > > > > > Not defending Ginn, because, well, he doesn't know how to catch, 
> > but... 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > if you're describing the same play I think you're describing, 
> Henne 
> > > > > > underthrew 
> > > > > > the ball by several yards and lost out on what could have been a 
> long 
> > TD. 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > > ------ Original Message ------ 
> > > > > > From: bill coddington 
> > > > > > 
> > > > > >> His route running sucks too - late in game Henne rolls out and 
> Ginn 
> > runs 
> > > > > > deep post - he makes absolutely no move to shake the defender who 
> > easily 
> > > > > > stays 
> > > > > > with him and it ends up an incomplete. 
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> Fasano dropped a pass he should have caught as well. 
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> 
> > > > > >> > Date: Sun, 25 Oct 2009 17:10:17 -0700 
> > > > > >> > From: johnkilmartin at bellsouth.net 
> > > > > >> > To: dolphins-disc at phins.com 
> > > > > >> > Subject: Re: DOLPHINS: Ginns hands 
> > > > > >> > 
> > > > > >> > My head is going to explode if he is the starting WR next week. 
> 
> > Turner 
> > > > > > can't be worse than that can he? 
> > > > > >> > 
> > > > > >> > Jay Kilmartin 
> > > > > >> > 803-873-8967 - Cell 
> > > > > >> > The Melting Pot 
> > > > > >> > Columbia - 803-731-8500 
> > > > > >> > Greenville - 864-297-5035 
> > > > > >> > 
> > > > > >> > "I predict future happiness for Americans if they can prevent 
> the 
> > > > > >> > government from wasting the labors of the people under the 
> pretense 
> > of 
> > > > > > taking care of them." - 
> > > > > >> > Thomas Jefferson 
> > > > > >> > 
> > > > > >> > 
> > > > > >> > 
> > > > > >> > 
> > > > > >> > 
> > > > > >> > ________________________________ 
> > > > > >> > From: ldouglas 
> > > > > >> > To: Miami Dolphins Discussion 
> > > > > >> > Sent: Sunday, October 25, 2009 8:03:43 PM 
> > > > > >> > Subject: Re: DOLPHINS: Ginns hands 
> > > > > >> > 
> > > > > >> > and from Brian "Sports Guy" Simmons: "Ted Ginn Jr's career 
> gives us 
> > a 
> > > > > >> > chance to imagine what it would be like if someone tried to 
> play 
> > wide 
> > > > > >> > receiver without arms." 
> > > > > >> > 
> > > > > >> > On 10/25/09, ldouglas wrote: 
> > > > > >> > > he's Reggie Bush without the hype (and offensive weapons to 
> hide 
> > him) 
> > > > > >> > > 
> > > > > >> > > On 10/25/09, ldouglas wrote: 
> > > > > >> > >> that's what it''s come to - dude basically running gassers 
> on 
> > every 
> > > > > > play. 
> > > > > >> > >> 
> > > > > >> > >> On 10/25/09, Patrick McLaughlin wrote: 
> > > > > >> > >>> 
> > > > > >> > >>> 
> > > > > >> > >>> It has become abundantly clear that Ginn does not know how 
> to 
> > place 
> > > > > > his 
> > > > > >> > >>> hands to catch an over the shoulder ball. The only one he 
> was 
> > > > > >> > >>> caught 
> > > > > >> > >>> this 
> > > > > >> > >>> year, was the Jets game, where Henne put it so high, that 
> it 
> > dropped 
> > > > > >> > >>> right 
> > > > > >> > >>> down on him and he had to catch it right. He tries to catch 
> 
> > > > > > everything 
> > > > > >> > >>> thumbs in and cannot make that adjustment. It also appears 
> that 
> > he 
> > > > > >> > >>> cannot 
> > > > > >> > >>> catch when there's good coverage. Henne put that last throw 
> 
> > into 
> > > > > >> > >>> the 
> > > > > >> > >>> endzone about as good as anyone could and Ginn once again 
> tried 
> > to 
> > > > > > catch 
> > > > > >> > >>> it 
> > > > > >> > >>> thumbs in and let it hit his bicep. He really does not have 
> 
> > good 
> > > > > > ball 
> > > > > >> > >>> skills. Right now, the only value I see him truly having 
> for 
> > this 
> > > > > > team 
> > > > > >> > >>> is 
> > > > > >> > >>> us lining him up on the jumbo packages and running straight 
> 9s 
> > to 
> > > > > >> > >>> hopefully 
> > > > > >> > >>> take a CB and S out of making a tackle on the running play. 
> 
> > > > > >> > >>> 
> > > > > >> > >>> 
> > > > > >> > >>> Patrick, getting down verbally... 
> > > > > >> > >>> 
> > > > > >> > >>> 
> > > > > >> > >>> 
> > > > > >> > >>> 
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