DOLPHINS: Questionable coaching decisions

Wed Nov 11 01:00:59 GMT 2009

If I had their offenses, I'd go for it, too.... ;-)

> From: pluvlaw at hotmail.com
> To: dolphins-disc at phins.com
> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 19:46:15 -0500
> Subject: Re: DOLPHINS: Questionable coaching decisions
> 
> 
> I agree most coaches would have done the same thing.  It's the coaches who would go for it that scare me if I'm on the other side.  I could see Belicheck and Peyton going for it in a similar situation.  It's those guys who you feel relieved when you see the punting unit come out.  I'd like to have that feeling once in my lifetime with the coach of one of my teams.  
> 
> Patrick, getting down verbally...
> 
> 
>  
> > Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:47:23 -0600
> > From: mdiana at tulane.edu
> > To: dolphins-disc at phins.com
> > Subject: Re: DOLPHINS: Questionable coaching decisions
> > 
> > I can see both sides of it too, but the fact is we didn't punt and stop
> > them. We punted and let them get a couple of first downs, changing field
> > position, and making it that much harder to go down the field to score.
> > 
> > Further, if you think the defense can stop them after a punt, why would you
> > not think they could stop them after a failed fourth down attempt? I mean,
> > the punt decision pretty much counts on your defense getting a three and
> > out, or, as I've said, you've lost the field position battle, which we ended
> > up doing anyway.
> > 
> > The biggest reason I thought we should have gone for it on fourth down at
> > the time--and I still do--is because our defense was playing so poorly. They
> > weren't getting to Brady, and there was no reason to expect that they all of
> > the sudden would be able to stop them. Particularly not in the fourth
> > quarter against a passing team. We were frankly lucky we got the ball back
> > without them having scored again.
> > 
> > Having said all of that, I can't second guess Sparano on this one, because I
> > do think most coaches would have made the choice he did at that point in the
> > game only down seven.
> > 
> > 
> > On 11/10/09 10:22 AM, "Kristoffer Shields" <kms223 at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > 
> > > 
> > > 
> > > If you punt then stop them right away, you'll get the ball at about the 40 or
> > > 50, not the 20. If you give up a couple first downs, then you'll get it at
> > > the 20... but if you go for it and don't get it, and they get a first down,
> > > the game is over because they'll kick a field goal.
> > > 
> > > I can see both sides of this one. I sort of like the aggressiveness of going
> > > for it.... but I can't call it a "bad coaching decision" to punt. It
> > > certainly doesn't rise to the level of the TO in the Saints game or going for
> > > 2 in the Jets game in my mind.
> > > 
> > >> From: pluvlaw at hotmail.com
> > >> To: dolphins-disc at phins.com
> > >> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 10:58:17 -0500
> > >> Subject: Re: DOLPHINS: Questionable coaching decisions
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> My reply would be that you have to assume a stop results in a new possession
> > >> that starts at the 20 at best. You're gonna have to move the ball either
> > >> way. I like our chances of picking up the 4th and 5 and moving the rest of
> > >> the 40 yards better than I like our chances of driving 80 in 2 minutes.
> > >> 
> > >> Patrick, getting down verbally...
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >> 
> > >>> Date: Tue, 10 Nov 2009 07:39:41 -0800
> > >>> From: agua at bellsouth.net
> > >>> To: dolphins-disc at phins.com
> > >>> Subject: Re: DOLPHINS: Questionable coaching decisions
> > >>> 
> > >>> Well, where it hurts you is the Pats then aren't too far from kicking 3
> > >>> points and making it a 10 point game and needing 2 possessions to tie it.
> > >>> 
> > >>> Pin em back and stop em. That's what they did.
> > >>> 
> > >>> --- On Tue, 11/10/09, Patrick McLaughlin <pluvlaw at hotmail.com> wrote:
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >>> From: Patrick McLaughlin <pluvlaw at hotmail.com>
> > >>> Subject: Re: DOLPHINS: Questionable coaching decisions
> > >>> To: dolphins-disc at phins.com
> > >>> Date: Tuesday, November 10, 2009, 8:38 AM
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >>> I agree with Paul and said as much Sunday. How does going for it there
> > >>> really hurt you? What...if they get two or three first downs they're in FG
> > >>> range? Well...if they get two or three first downs, the game is over anyway
> > >>> b/c we won't have enough clock to do anything. It's not like we got great
> > >>> field position out of punting it away. We started our next drive at the 14.
> > >>> Not to mention, until Ginn dropped that pass, we seemed to be moving the
> > >>> ball pretty well there.
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >>> Now...I'm not saying most of the league doesn't make that same call. They
> > >>> probably do. I just think it's playing too safe and scared. Henne converts
> > >>> that 4th down and even if we don't win, that's great experience for him.
> > >>> 
> > >>> Patrick, getting down verbally...
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >>> 
> > >>>> From: agua at bellsouth.net
> > >>>> To: dolphins-disc at phins.com
> > >>>> Date: Mon, 9 Nov 2009 21:40:51 -0600
> > >>>> Subject: Re: DOLPHINS: Questionable coaching decisions
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> Disagree. He put it on the D to either come up with a turnover or stop the
> > >>>> Cheats with enough time to score. They accomplished that with well over
> > >>>> three minutes to score. The Phins didn't run out of time trying to score.
> > >>>> They couldn't get a first down.
> > >>>> ----- Original Message -----
> > >>>> From: "Paul Debbas" <pauldebbas at gmail.com>
> > >>>> To: <dolphins-disc at phins.com>
> > >>>> Sent: Monday, November 09, 2009 8:59 PM
> > >>>> Subject: DOLPHINS: Questionable coaching decisions
> > >>>> 
> > >>>> 
> > >>>>> For the third straight game, Tony Sparano made a highly questionable
> > >>>>> coaching decision. Two weeks ago, it was the time out near the end of the
> > >>>>> first half. Last week, it was trying for two with an 11-point lead.
> > >>>>> Yesterday, it was the Wanny-like decision to punt on 4th and 4 with less
> > >>>>> than six minutes left. Not good, and a worrisome trend.
> > >>>>> 
> > >>>>> Paul Debbas
> > >>>>> Dolfan in NJ
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