DOLPHINS: WHY???

[Kristoffer Shields]

Man, I don't understand why that chart would say to go for 2 up 11.  It just makes no sense.  Anyway, I completely agree with you guys---you don't go for it until you have to.  But this one makes absolutely no sense to me.

> From: mdiana at tulane.edu
> Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 18:23:03 -0600
> To: dolphins-disc at phins.com
> Subject: Re: DOLPHINS: WHY???
> 
> I agree with your rules 100%.
> 
> For what it's worth, David Hyde posted a link to "The Chart:"
> 
> http://www.normhitzges.com/thechart.htm
> 
> "The Chart" clearly says to go for it if your leading by 11 or 12, but  
> what it doesn't say is when you should consult the chart and when you  
> shouldn't.
> 
> On Nov 1, 2009, at 6:07 PM, Danny Nelson wrote:
> 
> > You guys know I feel strongly about this.  It's so much simpler than  
> > coaches
> > make it.
> >
> > You dont go for two if:
> >
> > It's too early in the game.
> > You're winning, especially by multiple scores.
> > You don't have to go for it.
> >
> > And for God's sake don't go for it if all three rules apply!  Tony,  
> > are you
> > listening?
> >
> > There are a lot of exceptions to these rules in certain situations.   
> > For
> > example if you go up by one with a minute left, then going for two  
> > makes
> > perfect sense even though it goes against my do go for it when  
> > you're up rule.
> > My rules are general rules of thumb (or is rule of thumbs?) but if  
> > you stick
> > to them then you are almost always going to make the right call.
> >
> > ------ Original Message ------
> > From: Kristoffer Shields <kms223 at hotmail.com>
> >
> >> Being up 11 or 12 isn't the same thing, though, because 11 is one  
> >> TD (with a
> > 2-pt conversion) and a FG.  Being up 12 requires 2 TDs.  That's a huge
> > difference---we are fortunate that the Jets were called for illegal  
> > shift on
> > their 2-pointer and then we stopped the re-try, so it didn't matter  
> > (if they
> > had converted there, they would've just needed a FG to tie on that  
> > last
> > drive). There's no defending going for 2 there---I would wager the  
> > house that
> > someone lost track of the score.
> >>
> >>> From: richiewohlers at gmail.com
> >>> Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 15:02:32 -0800
> >>> To: dolphins-disc at phins.com
> >>> Subject: Re: DOLPHINS: WHY???
> >>>
> >>> I guess the theory could be:
> >>>
> >>> Up by 11 - We lose if the Jets score 2 TD's
> >>> Up by 12 - We lose if the Jets score 2 TD's (and make at least 1 XP)
> >>> Up by 13 - We tie if the Jets score 1 TD and kick 2 FGs.
> >>>
> >>> Essentially, being up by either or 11 or 12 is basically the same  
> >>> thing,
> > but
> >>> being up by 13 could possibly extend the game if the Jets score  
> >>> thrice.
> >>>
> >>>
> >>>
> >>> On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Mark S. Clark <clark.m.s at gmail.com>
> > wrote:
> >>>
> >>>> Some of you may remember that I have been a proponent of the 2- 
> >>>> point
> > try
> >>>> when it would be a benefit.
> >>>>
> >>>> With that in mind, why on earth did they try for two just now?
> >>>> That would have put them up by 13 instead of 12. What's the  
> >>>> difference?
> >>>> Do they think that if the Jets score twice that they will block the
> > extra
> >>>> point both times?
> >>>> Do they expect 4 FGs by the Jets?
> >>>>
> >>>> Now, the Jets can get a TD with a 2PT and be within a FG!
> >>>>
> >>>>
> >>>> Mark
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