DOLPHINS: WHY???
Mark L. Diana
mdiana at tulane.edu
Mon Nov 2 00:23:03 GMT 2009
I agree with your rules 100%.
For what it's worth, David Hyde posted a link to "The Chart:"
http://www.normhitzges.com/thechart.htm
"The Chart" clearly says to go for it if your leading by 11 or 12, but
what it doesn't say is when you should consult the chart and when you
shouldn't.
On Nov 1, 2009, at 6:07 PM, Danny Nelson wrote:
> You guys know I feel strongly about this. It's so much simpler than
> coaches
> make it.
>
> You dont go for two if:
>
> It's too early in the game.
> You're winning, especially by multiple scores.
> You don't have to go for it.
>
> And for God's sake don't go for it if all three rules apply! Tony,
> are you
> listening?
>
> There are a lot of exceptions to these rules in certain situations.
> For
> example if you go up by one with a minute left, then going for two
> makes
> perfect sense even though it goes against my do go for it when
> you're up rule.
> My rules are general rules of thumb (or is rule of thumbs?) but if
> you stick
> to them then you are almost always going to make the right call.
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: Kristoffer Shields <kms223 at hotmail.com>
>
>> Being up 11 or 12 isn't the same thing, though, because 11 is one
>> TD (with a
> 2-pt conversion) and a FG. Being up 12 requires 2 TDs. That's a huge
> difference---we are fortunate that the Jets were called for illegal
> shift on
> their 2-pointer and then we stopped the re-try, so it didn't matter
> (if they
> had converted there, they would've just needed a FG to tie on that
> last
> drive). There's no defending going for 2 there---I would wager the
> house that
> someone lost track of the score.
>>
>>> From: richiewohlers at gmail.com
>>> Date: Sun, 1 Nov 2009 15:02:32 -0800
>>> To: dolphins-disc at phins.com
>>> Subject: Re: DOLPHINS: WHY???
>>>
>>> I guess the theory could be:
>>>
>>> Up by 11 - We lose if the Jets score 2 TD's
>>> Up by 12 - We lose if the Jets score 2 TD's (and make at least 1 XP)
>>> Up by 13 - We tie if the Jets score 1 TD and kick 2 FGs.
>>>
>>> Essentially, being up by either or 11 or 12 is basically the same
>>> thing,
> but
>>> being up by 13 could possibly extend the game if the Jets score
>>> thrice.
>>>
>>>
>>>
>>> On Sun, Nov 1, 2009 at 12:36 PM, Mark S. Clark <clark.m.s at gmail.com>
> wrote:
>>>
>>>> Some of you may remember that I have been a proponent of the 2-
>>>> point
> try
>>>> when it would be a benefit.
>>>>
>>>> With that in mind, why on earth did they try for two just now?
>>>> That would have put them up by 13 instead of 12. What's the
>>>> difference?
>>>> Do they think that if the Jets score twice that they will block the
> extra
>>>> point both times?
>>>> Do they expect 4 FGs by the Jets?
>>>>
>>>> Now, the Jets can get a TD with a 2PT and be within a FG!
>>>>
>>>>
>>>> Mark
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