DOLPHINS: Unger and the draft

dolfandave at att.net dolfandave at att.net
Wed Jan 7 00:40:20 GMT 2009


He fits our defense and he is a big guy but the question w/ him is do we give a guy w/ bad knees a huge, long term contract?

ddave
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> what's the deal with Crowder? what's the consensus about his fit in our defense? 
> 
> On 1/6/09, Rick wrote: 
> > these are our free agents for this year 
> > 
> > Y Bell 
> > V Carey 
> > C Crowder 
> > A Goodman 
> > R Hill 
> > T Perry 
> > 
> > Roth, Martin and Fasson are the big names for next year. 
> > 
> > Rick 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: Marvin 
> > To: Miami Dolphins Discussion 
> > Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 3:33 PM 
> > Subject: Re: DOLPHINS: Unger and the draft 
> > 
> > 
> > One or two spots one way or the other won't make a difference IMO. We will 
> > get the chance to pick some good players, and now have the people in control 
> > who will...and won't bypass a Drew Brees for a Jamar Fletcher, or an Anquan 
> > Boldin for an Eddie Moore. 
> > To me, free agency is more of a tool to plug glaring holes for the most 
> > part, especially when it comes to the top drawer free agents. If Carey 
> > walks, that creates a glaring hole IMO. A starting spot open with no 
> > experienced right tackle on the roster. Same thing if any of Bell, Crowder, 
> > Goodman or Hill leave. Can't think of any other starter who is a pending 
> > UFA. Roth maybe? There is something to be said for continuity too, and if 
> > the price is right, I'd try to retain any of them. If they leave, then go 
> > for a UFA to fill the void. I can't think of any backup we currently have 
> > that I would feel comfortable with, stepping in to a starter's role for any 
> > of them next year. Perhaps, Michael Lehan at corner, who should be back 100% 
> > after an injury filled 2008 with ankle and hamstring problems. Perhaps 
> > Charlie Anderson, if we lose Roth. 
> > Otherwise the draft is still the best way to build the core of the roster. 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Rick" 
> > To: "Miami Dolphins Discussion" 
> > Sent: Sunday, January 4, 2009 3:04:25 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
> > Subject: Re: DOLPHINS: Unger and the draft 
> > 
> >  
> > I looked it up (god I love google). I was totally wrong (dont tell my wife 
> > she thinks im perfect), the only two teams that are not affected by their 
> > record are the superbowl teams. The rest of the teams are set by their 
> > record. We will have the 25th pick in the draft UNLESS Philly/Minn/SD or AZ 
> > make the playoffs. So we need to root for SD and one of those three NFC 
> > teams to make it to the superbowl. 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: Marvin 
> > To: Miami Dolphins Discussion 
> > Sent: Sunday, January 04, 2009 2:48 PM 
> > Subject: Re: DOLPHINS: Unger and the draft 
> > 
> > 
> > I think you're right as for where we will pick. The "way to early to 
> > tell" only meant in regards to where Unger goes as for what range of picks. 
> > My early guess is we'll get the chance to take him if we want him. 
> > 
> > ----- Original Message ----- 
> > From: "Rick" 
> > To: "Miami Dolphins Discussion" 
> > Sent: Sunday, January 4, 2009 2:32:12 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific 
> > Subject: Re: DOLPHINS: Unger and the draft 
> > 
> > > Way too early to tell. We will pick about 23-26 I guess? 
> > 
> > Marvin am I wrong in thinking that we can't pick any lower then 23? i 
> > always 
> > thought that the non-playoff teams picked first (1-20) then the order 
> > was 
> > determined by when you are eliminated and your record. So for example, 
> > this 
> > week end the Colts (12-4) Fins (11-5) and Falcons (11-5) will pick 
> > behind 
> > the loser of the last game (Minn and Philly both have a worse record 
> > then 
> > any of the teams that alreay lost). So it should be Phlly/Minn loser at 
> > 21 
> > then either the Falcons or Fins depending on tie breaker and lastly the 
> > Colts at 24. 
> > 
> > > Right now, Mayock rates Unger the 17th overall senior. 
> > 
> > I think the deal with Max will come down to what position does the team 
> > that 
> > picks him want him to play. If he is seen as a center/guard he is going 
> > to 
> > slide into the middleof the 2nd round. If they see him at a OT he will 
> > be a 
> > late 1st. 
> > 
> > 
> > > Another thing effecting Unger will be this draft has about 4 other 
> > really 
> > > good looking centers who are no later than 4th round types if not 
> > sooner. 
> > > Alex Mack, Cal, projected 2nd, Jonathan Luigs, Arkansas, projected 2nd 
> > or 
> > > 3rd, Eric Wood, Louisville, 3rd, and Antoine Caldwell, Alabama, 3rd or 
> > > 4th. 
> > 
> > This is a very good year for centers. Mack has even been projected at a 
> > late 
> > 1st rounder by some but I think he will slide cause like you said center 
> > don't normally go ing the 1st round. 
> > 
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