DOLPHINS: Christmas

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Tue Dec 15 17:06:49 GMT 2009 

I think most of us have concluded that whether we go to a 4-3 or not.

ddave
-------------- Original message from ldouglas <ldouglas at gmail.com>: -------------- 


> going to a 4-3 assumes that Peezy is done with the team, no? 
> 
> On 12/14/09, Kristoffer Shields wrote: 
> > 
> > 
> > The thing about the defense is the question has been where the big plays are 
> > going to come from.... and it looks like the answer is one of two places: 
> > First, I think Randy Starks is the Fins MVP this year. What a season he has 
> > had. I know some of the local reporters have said he hasn't had a Pro Bowl 
> > season, but IMO, for his position and what he is asked to do, the number of 
> > impact plays he has had this year has been incredible. 
> > 
> > The second place is Cameron Wake. I know he has substantial work to do in 
> > coverage and setting the edge against the run and he won't be a full-time 
> > player until he makes progress there..... but doesn't it seem like every 
> > time we desperately need a play late in the game, it's Wake who is putting 
> > on the pressure? With some work, I think he can be a special player. 
> > 
> > But here's my point, and it's more of a long-term thing. Given all that, 
> > and assuming JT comes back to the Fins next year.... Wouldn't a 4-3 base 
> > defense make a lot of sense for this team? We have a lot of depth at DL, 
> > especially at DE (and especially if we moved JT back to a pass rushing DE). 
> > And it seems to me that if we're going to run a 3-4 successfully, we need to 
> > add at least 2 big-time LBs. Maybe Wake can develop into the dominant OLB 
> > we need, but it'd be easier for him to rush from the DE position (that's 
> > where he seems to do his most damage, in pass situations when we go to 4 
> > down linemen). And even if he did develop, we'd still need another 
> > playmaker at ILB....it's clear Crowder, Ayodele, and Torbor (who is actually 
> > my favorite of the three) aren't gonna cut it. But if we went to a 4-3, 
> > we'd still be stacked on the DL, the OLBs would be less crucial and we'd 
> > just need to find someone who could man the middle---a tall order, but only 
> > one player rather than having to fill multiple holes. 
> > 
> > I don't know, just a thought. I know the "base" defense is much less 
> > important than it used to be because teams are in and out of so many 
> > formations. But I can't help but wonder if it wouldn't make some sense to 
> > run more of a 4-3 look with our personnel. 
> > 
> >> Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 20:45:20 -0600 
> >> From: mdiana at tulane.edu 
> >> To: dolphins-disc at phins.com 
> >> Subject: Re: DOLPHINS: Christmas 
> >> 
> >> This one and last week too. As angry as I was at that long ball when Smith 
> >> and Wilson both bit on the double move, that was one of the few plays the 
> >> defense gave up today. I think I read there were seven 3-and-outs by 
> >> Jacksonville. That's a tribute to the defense. 
> >> 
> >> I actually didn't think the offense was that bad, sans the turnovers. 
> >> Nothing like a turnover to kill the offense. Mind you, three turnovers 
> >> won't 
> >> get us past a better team, but I am happy to see a more conventional 
> >> offense. Not so much because of any issue with the WC, but because it 
> >> shows 
> >> that coaches are flexible enough to adjust. 
> >> 
> >> Does anyone know what's up with Vince Young? I read somewhere that he 
> >> injured his knee. Of the last three games, the Texans are the ones that 
> >> worry me the most. 
> >> 
> >> I'd love to see Buffalo and Jacksonville beat NE. 
> >> 
> >> 
> >> On 12/13/09 3:02 PM, "Kristoffer Shields" wrote: 
> >> 
> >> > 
> >> > 
> >> > For all the complaints I've made about the defense this season (and I 
> >> > stand by 
> >> > them), they sure won this one. That game shouldn't have been close.... 
> >> > but 
> >> > escaping with a win on the road works. Gonna have to play a lot better 
> >> > to 
> >> > beat Tennessee, though. 
> >> > 
> >> > Another week where we get to talk about the playoff possibilities, 
> >> > though, and 
> >> > that's fun. Looks like all the other contenders (except Pitt) are going 
> >> > to 
> >> > win, as we expected. But the Jax loss and the Denver loss (it looks 
> >> > like) 
> >> > tighten things up WC-wise. Maybe Jax will bounce back to beat NE in a 
> >> > couple 
> >> > weeks? 
> >> > 
> >> >> Date: Sun, 13 Dec 2009 15:57:31 -0500 
> >> >> From: ldouglas at gmail.com 
> >> >> To: dolphins-disc at phins.com 
> >> >> Subject: Re: DOLPHINS: Christmas 
> >> >> 
> >> >> and Garrard just regifted it back 
> >> >> 
> >> >> perhaps we got each other in Secret Santa 
> >> >> 
> >> >> On 12/13/09, David McKinney wrote: 
> >> >>> I hope the Dolphins at least put some nice wrapping paper, maybe a bit 
> >> >>> of a 
> >> >>> bow, on this Christmas present they're giving to Jacksonville. 
> >> >>> 
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