DOLPHINS: Shaun Ellis

Tue Dec 23 08:09:04 GMT 2008

I think they need to start policing the fans first.
I can't believe some of the assholes that attend sporting events. I mean,
it's a friggin' game! Some of these guys act like the players (and opposing
fans) boned their wife.
I'm going to the game this week, and I won't be wearing any Dolphin apparel,
and I'm even going to remove the Dolphins window sticker and my license
frame from my car.
Why? Because I've heard too many stories of opposing fans being harassed and
bullied and I don't need that shit. It's bad enough I'm gonna have to
contain my excitement any time the Fins score and if/when they win.
It really is a shame that I'm likely not going to be able to fully enjoy the
game, but that's the way it is when you combine neanderthals, alcohol, and a
sport.
Quite frankly, if it weren't for the fact that my cousin gave me these lower
level seats for free, and that I rarely get the chance to see a live game
(maybe once every 3 or 4 years at best...the last was Ravens/Packers on MNF
in Baltimore, so whenever that was...2005 maybe?), I'd just as soon stay
home and watch the game on my 52" Samsung HDTV. It's warmer, friendlier, and
the beer is better and cheaper.
I can only hope there is a decent Dolfan representation in my section.

Anyway, I don't condone what Ellis did, but I'm sure he was physically
provoked (even if the snowballs missed, it's still provocation if they were
aimed at him), and if that's the case, then he should be able to defend
himself.

Mark

On Tue, Dec 23, 2008 at 1:04 AM, Danny Nelson <cheesefrog at usa.net> wrote:

> You're right, the act itself was fairly tame.  But to me the significant
> thing
> was that a player engaged fans in a physical and confrontational manner.
>  If
> you are the Commish do you wait for the next player to maybe go into the
> stands to fight or do you stop this kind of behavior right here and now?  I
> think if you do not make a statement then you are just inviting future
> conflict.  I know if an opposing player throws something at me I am going
> let
> him have it back with whatever I have at my disposal- beer, ice, terrible
> towel, chain saw, whatever I've got.  Then next thing you know it's on and
> it
> gets ugly, and my lawyer (a certain one man gang from South Carolina) is
> showing the Ellis play in court telling the jury that it shows the NFL
> condoned it's players attacking fans because they didn't do anything about
> it
> when they had the chance.
>
> I would feel the same way if it were a Dolphins player.  I hate frivilous
> lawsuits and I absolutely believe that proper behavior goes both ways- fans
> who cross the line should be permanently banned.  But it would be a real
> bad
> precedent for the league to just ignore this.  Maybe I'm overestimating the
> situation; maybe it was all good fun on both sides.  But what happens next
> time is what I would be concerned about if I were in charge.  The Ron
> Artest
> comparison is not that farfetched.
>
> ------ Original Message ------
> From: Marvin <dolphin9731 at comcast.net>
>
> > I hate the Jets as much as any of ya, but IMO this is all being
> overblown.
> It wasn't a block of ice. It was packed snow that had been removed from the
> field to play the game. There is a big difference. Ice of the same
> dimensions
> would be much more dense and heavier. He didn't hurl it with what appeared
> to
> be malicious intent. He tossed it underhanded and if that hurt the dude who
> it
> hit, he has to be the biggest pussy in the world.
> > ----- Original Message -----
> > From: "Danny Nelson" <cheesefrog at usa.net>
> > To: "Rick" <mroz66 at comcast.net>, "General Discussion of the Miami
> Dolphins"
> <dolphins-disc at phins.com>
> > Sent: Monday, December 22, 2008 6:56:41 PM GMT -08:00 US/Canada Pacific
> > Subject: Re: DOLPHINS: Shaun Ellis
> >
> > Seriously. Is not a suspension warranted? Maybe Goodell should call David
> > Stern and ask him how the whole Ron Artest going into the stands thing
> worked
> > out for him from a PR standpoint.
> >
> > ------ Original Message ------
> > From: "Rick" <mroz66 at comcast.net>
> >
> > > true, but I would still like to see the NFL take some action before
> > > Sunday.... I'm sorry but you just can't chuck blocks of ice into the
> > > stands....
> > >
> > > > It was in Seattle! (Big "duh" for me.) Then the fans were right to
> pelt
>
> > > > the Jets players. :-)
> > >
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