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Re: Stop the sensationalism
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: August 14, 2011 06:15PM

True, but does that mean he should come to a new team playing the same system and outperform someone who has been in not only that same system, but the very same team, for two seasons?

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Re: Stop the sensationalism
Posted by: ghotirule ()
Date: August 14, 2011 08:08PM


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Re: Stop the sensationalism
Date: August 14, 2011 09:33PM

dres9711 Wrote:
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> TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Panteraize Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > So we are less Diehart because we choose to
> > > voice
> > > > what is actually in out hearts and our
> minds?
> >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > No, all it means is that at some point you
> need
> > to
> > > just STFU and cheer for your team.
> >
> >
> >
> >
> > That appraoch has worked well for the last 40
> > yrs.........
> >
> > Man Mr Ross Loves Losers like You. Pay and
> cheer
> > NO MATTER what kind of product I put on the
> feild.
> > Why should he EVER try to win? With Fans like
> you
> > he can make more money and screw you over ever
> > year. Maybe you need to move to Detroit where
> the
> > Culture there is to just accept LOSING. Don't
> know
> > you , but if you accept mediocrity in your Life
> > thats up to you. I kinda strive for better in
> > everything I do. I like to WIN. I also hold
> those
> > like the Dolphins up to a higher standard. This
> > past decade has been dispicable. This is not
> the
> > Miami Dolphins we have grown up Loving. They
> need
> > to be accountable and they need to put a better
> > product on the feild. Its that simple. You
> think
> > your being a Good fan? Your an ENABLER! I
> better
> > EDIT it at this point. You losers can't handle
> the
> > truth.
> >
> > Once again, A Ton of positives the other night.
> > But Henne (AGAIN)was not one of them.
>
> What's mediocre is your grammar. I love how you
> are portraying yourself to be an all-star;
> however, you can't even master English. Get over
> yourself, loser.


LOL. The OLD stand by.......You can't spell, wah. wah. Pretty much sums up the argument when your so frustrated thats all you got.

The Only Losers here is US. The Miami Dolphins since the Early 70's have Lost EVERY SEASON! Since Dan Marino we have had slight success at the QB position with Feilder and pennington. Thats IT. And you call me a Loser? Because I refuse to accept that?

Did I spell that right Ahole? Guess what? It doesn't matter because you got the message loud and clear. You won't admit it , but you got it. And soon so will Tony and Jeff. They have NO room for losing this year. They stick with Henne , they go down the Toliet bowl with him. Henne has maybe 1 more brief window of oppourtunity. And its closing fast.

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Re: Stop the sensationalism
Posted by: dolphaholic ()
Date: August 15, 2011 01:10AM

Panteraize Wrote:
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> You CONTINUE to miss the point. It has nothing to
> do with "thinking I'm being a good fan" in the
> eyes of Stephen Ross by ignoring our QB issues. I
> don't give a $hit what Dolphins ownership thinks
> of me as a fan or wants me to do. I'm not trying
> to "fall in line" and I'm not out to please
> anybody. And this ridiculousness about me
> "enabling" the front office, you really have an
> inflated sense of yourself as a fan, thinking that
> your emotions about the team will somehow affect
> what the FO does. Everything you said is nonsense.
> The only thing that motivates me to cheer for my
> team (which Jesus Christ I can't believe I have to
> rationalize to you, shame on you) is that I'm a
> fan and the Miami Dolphins are a source of joy in
> my life. Obviously when they're losing it's
> painful, but it's really simple...
>
> At the beginning of the year, I look at our team
> and identify the things to get excited about
> (rookies we drafted, free agent signings, guys
> coming off injury, new schemes, etc.) and identify
> areas of concern that I have (major changes to the
> O-line, Henne coming off a disappointing season
> and giving us reason to be concerned about this
> upcoming season) and I digest all that, take the
> good with the bad, hope we're good this year like
> any other fan does, and start getting excited for
> the season to start.
>
> And for doing this you call me a loser. But you're
> the loser. I'm not the one whining and crying like
> a 4 year old girl about how our QB is the worst in
> the world and we're never going to win 1 game and
> blah blah blah and throwing a tantrum because
> management didnt pull the trigger on a journeyman
> QB or draft a kid they didn't believe in. You've
> already resigned yourself to failure for christ
> sake! But I'm the loser. eye rolling smiley
>
> I mean, really you're a complete joke. You're
> essentially arguing to me that we shouldn't cheer
> for the Dolphins because our QB sucks and
> management did nothing to change that. Literally
> the only argument I've made is that I'm a fan of
> this team and I want them to succeed so in spite
> of any concerns I have about weaknesses on this
> team, I'm going to continue cheering for them and
> hoping we play well. And you criticize me for
> that.
>
> Because instead of being excited for our season to
> start you want me to be resentful and negative,
> instead of looking at all the exciting new
> positive developments, you want me to panic,
> instead of being hopeful you want me to be
> resigned to failure, instead of cheering for the
> Miami Dolphins, you want me to boo them.
> Dolphaholic, Crowder52, ghotirule, and everyone
> else who's equally sick of hearing you and anyone
> who shares your poisonous attitude as I am, are
> right to be fed up with your loser mentality. It's
> pathetic. So like I said before there’s nothing
> you can do about the situation, so at some point
> you need to just STFU and cheer for your team. If
> not, I guess you can give up on the Dolphins and
> refuse to cheer for them.


Might be the best post i've read in a LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG time.

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Re: Stop the sensationalism
Posted by: Crowder52 ()
Date: August 15, 2011 02:59AM


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Re: Stop the sensationalism
Posted by: Crowder52 ()
Date: August 15, 2011 03:58AM


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Re: Stop the sensationalism
Posted by: Phinsfan2 ()
Date: August 15, 2011 04:11AM


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Re: Stop the sensationalism
Posted by: colonel ()
Date: August 15, 2011 05:43AM

I've been doing other things and haven't posted in a while. I'm glad we are in pre-season and looking forward to a better football team this regular season.

Just like most of you on this past Friday night, I watched the pre-game show and the "scrimmage" game. What I was looking for knowing all the players on both sides of the line were getting into shape and for some hoping to gain a spot on their respective rosters, were sparks of excellence.

I too, watched closely at the defense and was surprised to see how porous it was--well it was a practice game--ok I thought. Then I was hoping to see a spark, something different in the way Henne came off the ball, how he looked, and then "bang" an interception. The ball could have been caught, but it was not a good pass either. Neither Fasano or Henne did there job. I wasn't surprised.

What I was hoping to see was a spark from Henne. I really didn't see one. However, I was pleased to see the 40-yarder to Hartline though. However, Henne's inconsistency is always present it seems. So, while I share the disappointment in Henne that most of you share, I'm hoping that there's a light going off in his skill set. Griese's comments about finally getting on track in his 4th season was true--and much of him finding himself had to do with the quality of the players around him. If Fasano had grabbed that pass, would the "feelings" about Henne be a little less critical today? Maybe. It takes team work to make plays work. If Henne has too left feet things will never improve.

Newscasters make too much of who wins these pre-season games As each game progresses, getting closer to opening day, points and how they are earned are more important. Bad throws, missed catches, bad routes, etc all begin to mean something on who should be on the field on opening day. That applies to all teams.

What about opening day? We face the Pats. If we can get the defense to defend and the offense to execute plays--all plays--we have a chance at competing with the Pats. It's the "ROCKY" thing going on. If we can't actually win--I want to see a great, rough and tough showing. Then a winning rematch.

If QB Moore continues to shine in practice, it's very possible that we will see him play in the first regular season game.

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Re: Stop the sensationalism
Posted by: SouthFlPhinFan ()
Date: August 15, 2011 07:07AM

Crowder52 Wrote:
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> Krunk Fu Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Some people on this board just can't get away
> from
> > the "I'm a better fan than you" attitude. It's
> > pathetic.
> >
> > We all cheer for the same team. We all want the
> > same thing. Some people simply have a different
> > view on players/coaches. Expressing that view
> does
> > not make anyone a lesser fan, and thinking in
> > those terms is ignorant.
>
> Pathetic and Ignorant for that matter, is thinking
> that you are a fan or supporting your team by
> constantly spewing negativity energy and attitude
> towards a team you pretend to support. If that is
> what you do, then yes, you suck as a fan and the
> team would be better without you..
> As soon as you point out the organization, team or
> group that gets better from people telling them
> they constantly suck and are horrbile then I would
> buy your reaching argument...
>
> People try and act like they understand football
> and evaluating talent by constantly bashing
> Henne... They dont, none of us are thrilled about
> the situation but complaining, like a little
> bitch, who got picked last in a street pickup
> game, makes you just like that little bitch use to
> act..
> I got an idea, why dont you all that hate Henne,
> try that same attitude with your child, as he or
> she is learning something new, and see how that
> negative reinforcement works out for ya... lol...
>
> The funny things is the people that are constantly
> negative about our team, couldnt understand
> psychology, condition learning, conditioned
> responsed and positive reinforcement if hit them
> in the face. Yet they feel knowledgable,
> intelligent and superior by calling Henne a
> bumm.... I will let you be the judge on the pot
> and the Kettle.... Negativity is just that, and
> all you will ever get back from that type of
> energy you put in is the same you threw up on all
> of us.. You get out of it , what you put into
> it... But the fact one doesnt remotely understand
> psychology and its affects, I should surely stay
> away from any logical philosophical ideas...



Now is that Not Negative Reinforcement, you are using yourself...LOL Ya know what people just get to excited over other peoples opinions... This is a Board, they are not at the field calling any one a Bum, this is the place to do that, and ya leave it here... This is my Vent Hole... And who cares how peeps Spell Some of the most brilliant Minds could not spell....

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Re: Stop the sensationalism
Posted by: montequi ()
Date: August 15, 2011 08:00AM

I think this is precisely why our first unit MUST look better in our next preseason game. If not, be prepared to see changes...and Henne will not be completely safe either.

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Re: Stop the sensationalism
Posted by: Panteraize ()
Date: August 15, 2011 09:00AM

dolphaholic Wrote:
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> Panteraize Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > You CONTINUE to miss the point. It has nothing
> to
> > do with "thinking I'm being a good fan" in the
> > eyes of Stephen Ross by ignoring our QB issues.
> I
> > don't give a $hit what Dolphins ownership
> thinks
> > of me as a fan or wants me to do. I'm not
> trying
> > to "fall in line" and I'm not out to please
> > anybody. And this ridiculousness about me
> > "enabling" the front office, you really have an
> > inflated sense of yourself as a fan, thinking
> that
> > your emotions about the team will somehow
> affect
> > what the FO does. Everything you said is
> nonsense.
> > The only thing that motivates me to cheer for
> my
> > team (which Jesus Christ I can't believe I have
> to
> > rationalize to you, shame on you) is that I'm a
> > fan and the Miami Dolphins are a source of joy
> in
> > my life. Obviously when they're losing it's
> > painful, but it's really simple...
> >
> > At the beginning of the year, I look at our
> team
> > and identify the things to get excited about
> > (rookies we drafted, free agent signings, guys
> > coming off injury, new schemes, etc.) and
> identify
> > areas of concern that I have (major changes to
> the
> > O-line, Henne coming off a disappointing season
> > and giving us reason to be concerned about this
> > upcoming season) and I digest all that, take
> the
> > good with the bad, hope we're good this year
> like
> > any other fan does, and start getting excited
> for
> > the season to start.
> >
> > And for doing this you call me a loser. But
> you're
> > the loser. I'm not the one whining and crying
> like
> > a 4 year old girl about how our QB is the worst
> in
> > the world and we're never going to win 1 game
> and
> > blah blah blah and throwing a tantrum because
> > management didnt pull the trigger on a
> journeyman
> > QB or draft a kid they didn't believe in.
> You've
> > already resigned yourself to failure for christ
> > sake! But I'm the loser. eye rolling smiley
> >
> > I mean, really you're a complete joke. You're
> > essentially arguing to me that we shouldn't
> cheer
> > for the Dolphins because our QB sucks and
> > management did nothing to change that.
> Literally
> > the only argument I've made is that I'm a fan
> of
> > this team and I want them to succeed so in
> spite
> > of any concerns I have about weaknesses on this
> > team, I'm going to continue cheering for them
> and
> > hoping we play well. And you criticize me for
> > that.
> >
> > Because instead of being excited for our season
> to
> > start you want me to be resentful and negative,
> > instead of looking at all the exciting new
> > positive developments, you want me to panic,
> > instead of being hopeful you want me to be
> > resigned to failure, instead of cheering for
> the
> > Miami Dolphins, you want me to boo them.
> > Dolphaholic, Crowder52, ghotirule, and everyone
> > else who's equally sick of hearing you and
> anyone
> > who shares your poisonous attitude as I am, are
> > right to be fed up with your loser mentality.
> It's
> > pathetic. So like I said before there’s
> nothing
> > you can do about the situation, so at some
> point
> > you need to just STFU and cheer for your team.
> If
> > not, I guess you can give up on the Dolphins
> and
> > refuse to cheer for them.
>
>
> Might be the best post i've read in a
> LOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOOONG time.


smileys with beer

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Re: Stop the sensationalism
Posted by: Crowder52 ()
Date: August 15, 2011 09:14AM

SouthFlPhinFan Wrote:
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> Crowder52 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------

>
> Now is that Not Negative Reinforcement, you are
> using yourself...LOL Ya know what people just get
> to excited over other peoples opinions... This is
> a Board, they are not at the field calling any one
> a Bum, this is the place to do that, and ya leave
> it here... This is my Vent Hole... And who cares
> how peeps Spell Some of the most brilliant Minds
> could not spell....


Sure it is, but that was kind of my point if you read my post, once you start on the comments or path of negativity, that is all you are going to get in response. And those reactions that stem from negativity are only just that negative, there is no gettng around it, that is why its useless.

Sure I understand venting, and people need to vent there frustrations, when they are unable to deal with them internally or themselves... No big deal we all do it at times. But venting is different the regurgitating the same crap about the same guy every other day over and over... Venting does not add anything productive to the conversation, it is a emtional response of purging one self of frustrations they feel are overwhelming them. That doesnt justify it, it just describes it.. And I got no problem until people start to add that the constant negaitvity is a good thing for this community or our team deserves it. Then I have to call bullshit..
Supporting a team is like supporting a friend or family member. If all you do is talk shit about them, and point out the worst in them and that is the point you want to make. You arent much of a family, friend, or supporter of your team now are you. There is always bad to be found anywhere and everywhere if you want to look for it. And if that is what you want to be about it surely isnt hard, smart, nor sophisticaed...
But dont expect me to sit and listen to the BS, as one tries to justify it, as positive or a legitimate position to camp in..
There isnt a guy on this site that hasnt cussed Chad Henne at times and cheered him with everything you got.. Support your team is exactly that support...

ps- I think you are mistaken on the spelling comments, I have never said anything about people spelling, hell I mistype all the time and dont always have the time to fix it,



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 08/15/2011 09:19AM by Crowder52.

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Re: Stop the sensationalism
Posted by: Crowder52 ()
Date: August 15, 2011 09:52AM

TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
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Sorry if I intimadate you.


Seriously, you think I have shown you the qualities of someone that gets intimidated? I am just a bit surprised by this comment. I like you treasure, if I didnt a wouldnt take the time to respond to you , I would just ignore you. I am not sure that is a compliment or not, I like Mia also, so some might say I am a bad judge around here, but intimidated is a first, maybe that is why I like you...lol

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Re: Stop the sensationalism
Posted by: Panteraize ()
Date: August 15, 2011 10:07AM

SouthFlPhinFan Wrote:
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> Now is that Not Negative Reinforcement, you are
> using yourself...LOL Ya know what people just get
> to excited over other peoples opinions... This is
> a Board, they are not at the field calling any one
> a Bum, this is the place to do that, and ya leave
> it here... This is my Vent Hole... And who cares
> how peeps Spell Some of the most brilliant Minds
> could not spell....

Crowder52 Wrote:
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Sure it is, but that was kind of my point if you read my post, once you start on the comments or path of negativity, that is all you are going to get in response. And those reactions that stem from negativity are only just that negative, there is no gettng around it, that is why its useless.



Actually you're both wrong. Negative reinforcement involves the removal of a stimulus, which then causes an increase in the targeted behavior.

So if "negativity" or "being negative" is the behavior in this situation, if your both saying that the introduction of negative comments about the team then results in the people they are being directed at becoming more negative themselves about things, well then that's positive reinforcement that's occuring. PR being the application of a given stimulus causing an increase in a particular behavior, (i.e. introducing negativity, which then causes more negativity in the people it's directed at)


Sorry, I'm a Board Certified Behavior Analyst smiling smiley

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Re: Stop the sensationalism
Posted by: Crowder52 ()
Date: August 15, 2011 10:11AM

I am refering to negative reinforcement of Henne, constantly criticizing and focus about what he does wrong? If you yell at you kid when he does something wrong that is negative reinforcement? No?
Postive reiforcement would be reinforcing his positive behavior. ie Complimenting and praising Henne for making a nice 44 TD pass to Hartline would be positive reinforcement? That is the way I understand it? Please correct me where I have gone a stray in my thoughts/



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Re: Stop the sensationalism
Posted by: SouthFlPhinFan ()
Date: August 15, 2011 10:14AM

Crowder52 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> SouthFlPhinFan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Crowder52 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
>
> >
> > Now is that Not Negative Reinforcement, you are
> > using yourself...LOL Ya know what people just
> get
> > to excited over other peoples opinions... This
> is
> > a Board, they are not at the field calling any
> one
> > a Bum, this is the place to do that, and ya
> leave
> > it here... This is my Vent Hole... And who
> cares
> > how peeps Spell Some of the most brilliant
> Minds
> > could not spell....
>
>
> Sure it is, but that was kind of my point if you
> read my post, once you start on the comments or
> path of negativity, that is all you are going to
> get in response. And those reactions that stem
> from negativity are only just that negative, there
> is no gettng around it, that is why its useless.
>
> Sure I understand venting, and people need to vent
> there frustrations, when they are unable to deal
> with them internally or themselves... No big deal
> we all do it at times. But venting is different
> the regurgitating the same crap about the same guy
> every other day over and over... Venting does not
> add anything productive to the conversation, it is
> a emtional response of purging one self of
> frustrations they feel are overwhelming them. That
> doesnt justify it, it just describes it.. And I
> got no problem until people start to add that the
> constant negaitvity is a good thing for this
> community or our team deserves it. Then I have to
> call bullshit..
> Supporting a team is like supporting a friend or
> family member. If all you do is talk shit about
> them, and point out the worst in them and that is
> the point you want to make. You arent much of a
> family, friend, or supporter of your team now are
> you. There is always bad to be found anywhere and
> everywhere if you want to look for it. And if that
> is what you want to be about it surely isnt hard,
> smart, nor sophisticaed...
> But dont expect me to sit and listen to the BS, as
> one tries to justify it, as positive or a
> legitimate position to camp in..
> There isnt a guy on this site that hasnt cussed
> Chad Henne at times and cheered him with
> everything you got.. Support your team is exactly
> that support...
>
> ps- I think you are mistaken on the spelling
> comments, I have never said anything about people
> spelling, hell I mistype all the time and dont
> always have the time to fix it,



The spelling point wasn't directed to you, just you see peeps say you can't even spell and use that to say they have no idea what they are saying... I was just messing with you about the Negative reinforcement, I take nothing to heart on boards. It just passes the time... I just don't get people that call other people things just for having a different opinion, and that is not directed at you or any one else in particular... In the end we all want to see The Phins be great, or at least I think we all want that..

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Re: Stop the sensationalism
Posted by: SouthFlPhinFan ()
Date: August 15, 2011 10:16AM

Panteraize Wrote:
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> SouthFlPhinFan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> > Now is that Not Negative Reinforcement, you are
>
> > using yourself...LOL Ya know what people just
> get
> > to excited over other peoples opinions... This
> is
> > a Board, they are not at the field calling any
> one
> > a Bum, this is the place to do that, and ya
> leave
> > it here... This is my Vent Hole... And who cares
>
> > how peeps Spell Some of the most brilliant Minds
>
> > could not spell....
>
> Crowder52 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
>
>
> Sure it is, but that was kind of my point if you
> read my post, once you start on the comments or
> path of negativity, that is all you are going to
> get in response. And those reactions that stem
> from negativity are only just that negative, there
> is no gettng around it, that is why its useless.
>
>
>
> Actually you're both wrong. Negative reinforcement
> involves the removal of a stimulus, which then
> causes an increase in the targeted behavior.
>
> So if "negativity" or "being negative" is the
> behavior in this situation, if your both saying
> that the introduction of negative comments about
> the team then results in the people they are being
> directed at becoming more negative themselves
> about things, well then that's positive
> reinforcement that's occuring. PR being the
> application of a given stimulus causing an
> increase in a particular behavior, (i.e.
> introducing negativity, which then causes more
> negativity in the people it's directed at)
>
>
> Sorry, I'm a Board Certified Behavior Analyst smiling smiley


Dam I would say you are a Behavior Analyst.... Now Behave your self...LOL

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Re: Stop the sensationalism
Posted by: Panteraize ()
Date: August 15, 2011 11:20AM


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Re: Stop the sensationalism
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: August 15, 2011 11:27AM

Panterize, in your expertise what would you say to attaching a mechanism to Henne's neck (it could go in the fat folds) that issues an electric shock each time he throws a pick and/or locks on to a single receiver or checks down. do you think that would make him a better QB? If so I say go for it!

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Re: Stop the sensationalism
Posted by: Crowder52 ()
Date: August 15, 2011 11:34AM

SouthFlPhinFan Wrote:
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> The spelling point wasn't directed to you, just
> you see peeps say you can't even spell and use
> that to say they have no idea what they are
> saying... I was just messing with you about the
> Negative reinforcement, I take nothing to heart on
> boards. It just passes the time... I just don't
> get people that call other people things just for
> having a different opinion, and that is not
> directed at you or any one else in particular...
> In the end we all want to see The Phins be great,
> or at least I think we all want that..


No worries, I agree and enjoy the different opinions around here. I just dont like the constant bashing and complaining about things that are beyound the control. If someones says Matt Moore is going to get the job, great, and i wouldnt complain about that. But just the our FO sucks, we are gonna be horrible. Henne sucks, all the time doesnt really serve much of a purpose.
In business, I have a rule, dont come to me with problems, come to me with solutions. If you walk up and say, we suck , we are horrible,, we should have done this, we should have done that, we messed this up and that up... doesnt help anything. In fact it is just a counterproductive act for the energy and direction needed to succeed, unless your are doing an annual review. ie: in a battle does it pay to complain about what you should have done different while you are getting shot at, no. It is about how do you move forward to overcome, the positions you find yourself in.
IMO That is what is productive, if you want to come with a problem follow it with a solution and one that doesnt incurr surrender of the team or season for a draft pick before the first regular season game has been played. Eitehr way Cheerssmileys with beer

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Re: Stop the sensationalism
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: August 15, 2011 11:51AM

well crowder, in fairness people are not just complaining about Henne without solutions in mind--they are complaining about the failure of the FO to move on any of the available solutions to the problem, via the draft, trade, or FO. So it's not just mindless bitching.

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Re: Stop the sensationalism
Posted by: Crowder52 ()
Date: August 15, 2011 12:30PM

Panterize- I like experts, you didnt come across as prick at all. Correct me if I am wrong, the people I respect around here have my back at times and challenge what I say at other times, and vice versa. Most regular members are men, and dont let ego get in the way of truth or learning.. That is why this site is the best, and worth participating in, because of the smart members with sense and respect for other and diversity of talent in all walks of life that are in this community.

This is a "cloud community" or "think tank" in my eyes about something we all care about and sometimes alot more from what you can learn. It is kind of like traveling the USA and getting diversity in opinion without traveling... When you do a poll around here, you really get a good idea about what people are thinking that have great knowledge on the subject....
It might be cool to see who voted in poles at the bottom of each poll, not which way they voted just which users participated, so you can judge its validity.

What do you think about Marshall and his treament and being a better teammate with psychological treament...Ask our law experts Berk or Chyren and others,, I enjoy asking questions to experts?
Eithar way smileys with beer

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Re: Stop the sensationalism
Posted by: Crowder52 ()
Date: August 15, 2011 12:44PM

berkeley223 Wrote:
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> well crowder, in fairness people are not just
> complaining about Henne without solutions in
> mind--they are complaining about the failure of
> the FO to move on any of the available solutions
> to the problem, via the draft, trade, or FO. So
> it's not just mindless bitching.


Ok, but until those available solutions succeed on their own and the offense fails with the solutions they have in place, it is a fruitless debate or argument... Getting an available solution wouldnt have guaranteed anything, no? IF we drafted Mallett, and he throws 6 interceptions and 1 TD in the first three games, then what(do you understand my point, it can go either way)?
If the FO at least made a move on an available option that was popular with people who are not profesionals in the field of analyzing talent, me included, it would have just been a PR move for the fanbase. And you dont want your FO, going against what they believe, to appease a fanbase or hype? That is how you wind up cutting the eleventh choice in the 2009 draft like Buffalo just did, a team that cant afford mistakes like that...

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Re: Stop the sensationalism
Posted by: Panteraize ()
Date: August 15, 2011 01:11PM

berkeley223 Wrote:
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> Panterize, in your expertise what would you say to
> attaching a mechanism to Henne's neck (it could go
> in the fat folds) that issues an electric shock
> each time he throws a pick and/or locks on to a
> single receiver or checks down. do you think that
> would make him a better QB? If so I say go for it!


hahah well that would be positive punishment (assuming it works in decreasing the # of picks he throws) and as much as some people on this board would like to do that to Henne, it wouldn't necessarily make him a better QB. It could just end up conditioning him to try to avoid throwing picks so effectively that he could end up becoming so gun shy that he starts throwing nothing but check downs on every single pass, which is the last we want to see smiling smiley

That being said, what the hell, I think most of us are willing to try anything at this point.

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Re: Stop the sensationalism
Posted by: dres9711 ()
Date: August 15, 2011 02:47PM

TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
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> dres9711 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Panteraize Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > > TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
> > > >
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > >
> > > > -----
> > > > > So we are less Diehart because we choose
> to
> > > > voice
> > > > > what is actually in out hearts and our
> > minds?
> > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > >
> > > > No, all it means is that at some point you
> > need
> > > to
> > > > just STFU and cheer for your team.
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > >
> > > That appraoch has worked well for the last 40
> > > yrs.........
> > >
> > > Man Mr Ross Loves Losers like You. Pay and
> > cheer
> > > NO MATTER what kind of product I put on the
> > feild.
> > > Why should he EVER try to win? With Fans
> like
> > you
> > > he can make more money and screw you over
> ever
> > > year. Maybe you need to move to Detroit where
> > the
> > > Culture there is to just accept LOSING. Don't
> > know
> > > you , but if you accept mediocrity in your
> Life
> > > thats up to you. I kinda strive for better in
> > > everything I do. I like to WIN. I also hold
> > those
> > > like the Dolphins up to a higher standard.
> This
> > > past decade has been dispicable. This is not
> > the
> > > Miami Dolphins we have grown up Loving. They
> > need
> > > to be accountable and they need to put a
> better
> > > product on the feild. Its that simple. You
> > think
> > > your being a Good fan? Your an ENABLER! I
> > better
> > > EDIT it at this point. You losers can't
> handle
> > the
> > > truth.
> > >
> > > Once again, A Ton of positives the other
> night.
> > > But Henne (AGAIN)was not one of them.
> >
> > What's mediocre is your grammar. I love how you
> > are portraying yourself to be an all-star;
> > however, you can't even master English. Get
> over
> > yourself, loser.
>
>
> LOL. The OLD stand by.......You can't spell,
> wah. wah. Pretty much sums up the argument when
> your so frustrated thats all you got.
>
> The Only Losers here is US. The Miami Dolphins
> since the Early 70's have Lost EVERY SEASON! Since
> Dan Marino we have had slight success at the QB
> position with Feilder and pennington. Thats IT.
> And you call me a Loser? Because I refuse to
> accept that?
>
> Did I spell that right Ahole? Guess what? It
> doesn't matter because you got the message loud
> and clear. You won't admit it , but you got it.
> And soon so will Tony and Jeff. They have NO room
> for losing this year. They stick with Henne , they
> go down the Toliet bowl with him. Henne has maybe
> 1 more brief window of oppourtunity. And its
> closing fast.

You are unbelievable, wow.

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