> seadevil Wrote:
> > > Your premise is utterly ridiculous, it really
> > And it’s, I would think, purposefully
> > convoluted,
> RESPONSE: The premise is ridiculous and
> convoluted? Let's see. The premise is that Bob,
> who worked with this guy, might have known that
> the guy liked tacos.
> Hmmm. Let's see. I am a Black man who is a
> VORACIOUS fried chicken eater. If anyone asked
> where I was, any body who knew me would probably
> say, "He's probably somewhere eating fried
> chicken." Now that would be my Black friends as
> well. So much for your "convoluted" theory.
> and the whole thing about
> > “chicken,” which is a paragraph I
> > finish reading, is tinged with prejudice.
> RESPONSE: Yup, I guess I'm prejudiced against
> myself and my own race.
> > My argument is not with you; my argument is
> > myself, for believing that Bob was a more
> > human.
> > Bob’s belief was that appearing to be
> > he’s not, is just as good as being something
> > he’s not.
> > Bob clearly dismisses the entire discipline of
> > history, he revealed a surprisingly jingoistic
> > attitude, he showed a shallow reading of
> > and politics, and religion, and his own damn
> > business, which, if he were as intelligent as
> > appeared to be, he would not have. I for one, as
> > Dolphins fan, expected more of Bob. And I still
> > love him anyway, I know he’s a good man, but
> > was a stupid thing to say, and revealed his
> > ignorance. Embarrassing.
> RESPONSE: All of this is based on your ASSUMPTION
> that he was not speaking from knowledge of the
> guy's personal habits. How do you know? Oh,
> that's right. You never came back with a
> statement that it was reported in the press that
> Bob knew nothing of this guy's personal eating
> habits EVEN THOUGH MOST OF US WHO WORK EVERY DAY
> WITH PEOPLE AND EAT LUNCH WITH THEM END UP KNOWING
> WHAT FOOD THEY EAT.) But oh, I forgot that is
> convoluted to think that or to even entertain the
> > PS – I love fried chicken.
> RESPONSE: Well, is that meant to say that you are
> White? ERR.... see the above. Of course, in your
> view anybody who said that about me would have to
> be racist because they would be assuming that
> since I'm Black, that is the only reason anyone
> would say that I loved fried chicken.
I suggest that you brief yourself on the facts of the case.
Bob Griese was a broadcaster in the employ of ESPN at the time. Juan Pablo Montoya was (is) a NASCAR driver.
It is ludicrous to suggest that Griese was aware of Montoya’s eating habits or any particular culinary predilection Montoya might have had.
Bob has apologized on-air, twice.
My argument is not that Bob is racist; I don’t think he is.
What Bob revealed though, is that he probably had (has?) huge swaths of information missing from his knowledge banks.
The “fried chicken” references are fraught with the perpetuation of racial stereotypes. Stereotypes that are meant to demean.
ChyrenB, I don’t care what color you are, I just don’t. It garners no favor with me, and attempting to make me aware of your color, or race, does not strengthen your argument.
Most folks are mixed anyway, and the future generations, if humanity survives, will be even more.
And you have no idea what color I am; as if it even mattered, you have no idea what gender I am either.
Wanna know what sucks? I’m a Bob Griese fan.