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The Raiders.
Posted by: ghotirule ()
Date: November 26, 2010 07:49PM


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Re: The Raiders.
Posted by: 808phan ()
Date: November 26, 2010 08:46PM

You're right, this could be a long day. Between injuries and the way this team is coached and managed during a game, we'll be lucky to win another game for the duration of the season.

My Raider observations:
If Jason Campbell is going to play, stuff the box & Cover 2. He is not a very good QB. He holds onto the ball too long, locks onto receivers and doesn't see the open ones. Gradkowski adds more life & spark to their team, but he's coming off an injury and hasn't played for a while.

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Re: The Raiders.
Posted by: montequi ()
Date: November 27, 2010 03:42AM

Marshall is doubtful and Henne is questionable. We'd have to get really lucky to win this one.

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Re: The Raiders.
Posted by: dolfan1 ()
Date: November 27, 2010 04:27AM

Yes, very lucky indeed. Look at the bright side, closer to a better draft in April.

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Re: The Raiders.
Posted by: montequi ()
Date: November 27, 2010 04:43AM

dolfan1 Wrote:
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> Yes, very lucky indeed. Look at the bright side,
> closer to a better draft in April.


You WOULD say that.

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Re: The Raiders.
Posted by: dolfan1 ()
Date: November 27, 2010 05:42AM

Hey, lets be realistic guys, I am not the bad guy here, its whats best for the team long range, you guys are all short sighted, this year is OVER deal with it! Lose the rest of the year and we have a shot at a premium player or can draft down and pickup more talent, we have been in this sitaution many many times, but eventually they will get it right.

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Re: The Raiders.
Posted by: montequi ()
Date: November 27, 2010 06:38AM

dolfan1 Wrote:
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> Hey, lets be realistic guys, I am not the bad guy
> here, its whats best for the team long range, you
> guys are all short sighted, this year is OVER deal
> with it! Lose the rest of the year and we have a
> shot at a premium player or can draft down and
> pickup more talent, we have been in this sitaution
> many many times, but eventually they will get it
> right.

I'm all for playing without anything to lose, trying new formations and plays on both offense and defense, and evaluating young guys over the old ones, but I will NOT rejoice in our losing!!

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Re: The Raiders.
Posted by: dolfan1 ()
Date: November 27, 2010 08:15AM

montequi Wrote:
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> dolfan1 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Hey, lets be realistic guys, I am not the bad
> guy
> > here, its whats best for the team long range,
> you
> > guys are all short sighted, this year is OVER
> deal
> > with it! Lose the rest of the year and we have
> a
> > shot at a premium player or can draft down and
> > pickup more talent, we have been in this
> sitaution
> > many many times, but eventually they will get
> it
> > right.
>
> I'm all for playing without anything to lose,
> trying new formations and plays on both offense
> and defense, and evaluating young guys over the
> old ones, but I will NOT rejoice in our losing!!


I just dont see winning as helping us in the future. I agree to try out all the 3rd stringers etc to see what you have, maybe a hidden gem etc, but if you lose the raiders game we are getting better and better on the draft list.

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Re: The Raiders.
Posted by: ghotirule ()
Date: November 27, 2010 09:16AM


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Re: The Raiders.
Posted by: ghotirule ()
Date: November 27, 2010 09:17AM


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Re: The Raiders.
Posted by: ghotirule ()
Date: November 27, 2010 09:23AM


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Re: The Raiders.
Posted by: dolfan1 ()
Date: November 27, 2010 09:42AM

ghotirule Wrote:
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> dolfan1 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Yes, very lucky indeed. Look at the bright
> side,
> > closer to a better draft in April.
>
>
> More loser talk. Only losers see the upside to a
> loss.

Its not loser talk, want this franchise to get better we need top draft picks, if you dont think that then we are in for mediocre years for another 25 years or more.

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Re: The Raiders.
Posted by: ghotirule ()
Date: November 27, 2010 09:46AM


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Re: The Raiders.
Posted by: dolfan1 ()
Date: November 27, 2010 11:38AM

ghotirule Wrote:
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> dolfan1 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> > Its not loser talk, want this franchise to get
> > better we need top draft picks, if you dont
> think
> > that then we are in for mediocre years for
> another
> > 25 years or more.
>
> Loser talk, plain and simple.
>
> I understand that you need to look for the bright
> side of a loss, but rooting for one when we have a
> chance to make the playoffs is loser talk fueled
> by a loser mentality.


PLAYOFFS????? WTF are you smoking??? How the hell are we supposed to make the playoffs son?

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Re: The Raiders.
Posted by: ghotirule ()
Date: November 27, 2010 12:03PM


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Re: The Raiders.
Posted by: dolfan1 ()
Date: November 27, 2010 12:13PM

ghotirule Wrote:
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> dolfan1 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > ghotirule Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > dolfan1 Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > > >
> > > > Its not loser talk, want this franchise to
> > get
> > > > better we need top draft picks, if you dont
> > > think
> > > > that then we are in for mediocre years for
> > > another
> > > > 25 years or more.
> > >
> > > Loser talk, plain and simple.
> > >
> > > I understand that you need to look for the
> > bright
> > > side of a loss, but rooting for one when we
> have
> > a
> > > chance to make the playoffs is loser talk
> > fueled
> > > by a loser mentality.
> >
> >
> > PLAYOFFS????? WTF are you smoking??? How the
> hell
> > are we supposed to make the playoffs son?
>
>
> I ain't your son, you sorry sack of loser talk.

Son refers to you as a "young minded" who needs guidence, got it my son?

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Re: The Raiders.
Posted by: ghotirule ()
Date: November 27, 2010 12:25PM


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Re: The Raiders.
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: November 27, 2010 03:10PM

guys, the raiders are no great shakes. I don't think it will take a miracle or anything for us to beat them, in fact I think we've got a pretty good chance.

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Re: The Raiders.
Posted by: dolfan1 ()
Date: November 27, 2010 06:36PM

ghotirule Wrote:
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> dolfan1 Wrote:
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> -----
> >
> > Son refers to you as a "young minded" who needs
> > guidence, got it my son?
>
> Funny, I just take it as a disrespectful taunt by
> someone who can't face the fact he is a loser.

A loser? Lol. I'm educated, make a great living, no debt and you call me a loser? Lol. You don't even know me.

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Re: The Raiders.
Posted by: colonel ()
Date: November 28, 2010 03:54AM

Why do you guys "fight" among yourselves? History has proven that to win you must have a "can do" attitude. Don't make your opinions personal. Everyone is entitled to their own belief system --respect that--and move on.

As for the Raiders--I despise them. Don't hate them--they simply are an end product of Al Davis--a gent I would never break bread with.

The Raiders have been a thorn in the Dolphins's side for decades. They have a consistent history of beating us when it counts the most. When they were riding high I was miserable--when they fell down, they were deserving of that and life was in balance.

The Raiders are trying to rebuild like the Dolphins--I'd like to see a strong game from us resulting in a big win over them. thumbs up smiling bouncing smiley

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Re: The Raiders.
Posted by: Ken ()
Date: November 28, 2010 07:15AM

ghotirule Wrote:
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> dolfan1 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Yes, very lucky indeed. Look at the bright
> side,
> > closer to a better draft in April.
>
>
> More loser talk. Only losers see the upside to a
> loss.

RE: There is ALWAYS an upside whether you win or whether you lose.

This team as it is right now, will not make the playoffs and the season is in effect over.

I don't want to see us lose a single game AND we should try like hell from top to bottom to win each one. But, the fact remains that the team will be better served right now by losing our remaining games.

We need more talent and we have a much better chance of getting it by drafting higher in each round. The fly in this ointment is that the staff has to actually pick the correct players and ensure that they are PLAYMAKERS on the field...if they screw that up neither winning or losing makes much difference.

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Re: The Raiders.
Posted by: Phinsfan2 ()
Date: November 28, 2010 08:17AM


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Re: The Raiders.
Posted by: ghotirule ()
Date: November 28, 2010 09:37AM


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Re: The Raiders.
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: November 28, 2010 11:07AM

we are well on our way. pitiful

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