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2021 Draft
Posted by: Ken ()
Date: January 03, 2021 03:31PM

So we have the following picks: 3, 18, 36 and 50 to start the draft.

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Re: 2021 Draft
Date: January 03, 2021 04:10PM

Its easy to look at the Bills game and claim failure. They might be the best team in the NFL at this point.

We came a long way this season. We are not considered a joke anymore. We need to continue in the same way......

Build the trenches. Get some playmakers at reciever. TUA was heavily rushed. That Oline is improving but needs at least 2 more fresh bodies.

Our defense was carved up by Buffalo twice now. Figure out why....fix it. Coaching was suspect too. You can't just pick players and go to the superbowl.

Watch the tape. Figure out what went wrong. Fix it.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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Re: 2021 Draft
Posted by: jlyell13 ()
Date: January 03, 2021 05:46PM

With top 4 picks

Sewell
Harris or Etienne
Rashod Bateman Kadarious Toney or Marquez Stevenson
Paris Ford Jevon Holland or Bubba Bolden



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 01/03/2021 06:10PM by jlyell13.

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Re: 2021 Draft
Date: January 03, 2021 09:21PM

jlyell13 Wrote:
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> With top 4 picks
>
> Sewell
> Harris or Etienne
> Rashod Bateman Kadarious Toney or Marquez
> Stevenson
> Paris Ford Jevon Holland or Bubba Bolden


That would instantly make us a different team against Buffalo next season. Tua had a rough season. He learned about the media... what he can say and what he cant say. He felt both victory and defeat. He will return next season a different player. We need to surround him with the right people so he can succeed.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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Re: 2021 Draft
Posted by: jlyell13 ()
Date: January 04, 2021 06:23AM

TCPF I agree and we also have cap room to possibly add a few of Aaron Jones, Allen Robinson Chris Godwin, Kenny Golladay or Ju ju Smith Schuster Leonard Williams

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Re: 2021 Draft
Date: January 04, 2021 11:55PM

Yes! You get it.thumbs up

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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Re: 2021 Draft
Posted by: jlyell13 ()
Date: January 08, 2021 09:10PM

If the Jets take Sewell do we rob someone for rights to Fields and get 2 firsts and 2 seconds?

Niners, Panthers , Lions , Boys?

Have 2 firsts 3 2nds this year ?


1st

Parsons and Waddle

2nd
Harris Etienne or Williams

Landon Dickerson

Hamsah Nasuirildeen Kam Chancellor II

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Re: 2021 Draft
Date: January 09, 2021 09:40AM

jlyell13 Wrote:
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> If the Jets take Sewell do we rob someone for
> rights to Fields and get 2 firsts and 2 seconds?
>
> Niners, Panthers , Lions , Boys?
>
> Have 2 firsts 3 2nds this year ?
>
>
> 1st
>
> Parsons and Waddle
>
> 2nd
> Harris Etienne or Williams
>
> Landon Dickerson
>
> Hamsah Nasuirildeen Kam Chancellor II


YES. The Lions will move up from 7 and blow us for the rights to fields. All their picks are high in the rounds too. We take their #7 , their #2 and possibly a #1 next season.

But if the Jets were smart......and they are not usually.......Keep Darnell and trade down from that #2 for draft picks.

We take Sewell if available. No doubt.

Another great Samoan quote: Seʻi luaʻi lou le ʻulu taumamao, Pick the breadfruits on the far-off branches first. Applied to any work, etc., to be done. Do the most difficult first.


In other words........BUILD THE TRENCHES.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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Re: 2021 Draft
Posted by: Ken ()
Date: January 10, 2021 05:51PM

3 - WR's Jaylen Waddle, Davonta Smith or Ja'Marr Chase
18 - RB's Najee Harris or Travis Etienne
36 - C Creed Humphrey, DE Carlos Basham or DT Tyler Shelvin
50 - WR Chris Olave, ILB Quay Walker or CB Israel Mukuamu
80 - QB Desmond Ritter, DE Payton Turner or LB Amari Gainer
113 - OL Daniel Faalele (Monster size), OL Cade Mays or S Andre Cisco
183 - BPA



Edited 6 time(s). Last edit at 01/25/2021 05:59PM by Ken.

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Re: 2021 Draft
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: January 11, 2021 03:06AM

Ken gets it.

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Re: 2021 Draft
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: January 11, 2021 03:10AM

Because either harris or ettiene will not last into the 2nd round. That would be a steal.

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Re: 2021 Draft
Posted by: astro34 ()
Date: January 11, 2021 04:26AM

Just ran a simulation, here is my draft:

#3 - Penei Sewell, OT Oregon
#18 - Devonta Smith, WR Alabama
#36 - Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah - LB Notre Dame
#50 Najee Harris - RB Alabama
#81 Creed Humphrey- C Oklahoma
#120 Marvin Wilson - DL Florida State
#196 Nolan Turner - S Clemson
#253 Xavier Kelly - DL Arkansas

I would love this draft, probably won't shake out this way, but there is a chance.

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Re: 2021 Draft
Date: January 11, 2021 05:50AM

astro34 Wrote:
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> Just ran a simulation, here is my draft:
>
> #3 - Penei Sewell, OT Oregon
> #18 - Devonta Smith, WR Alabama
> #36 - Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah - LB Notre Dame
> #50 Najee Harris - RB Alabama
> #81 Creed Humphrey- C Oklahoma
> #120 Marvin Wilson - DL Florida State
> #196 Nolan Turner - S Clemson
> #253 Xavier Kelly - DL Arkansas
>
> I would love this draft, probably won't shake out
> this way, but there is a chance.


I've spoken to people who really know college ball (especially basketball)and they all believe Harris will be there in the 2nd round like Travis Henry was. Exceptions to every Rule , but in general RB's don't have a long lifespan in the NFL so first rounders on them is usually seen as poor value.

Thats a great draft if it were to shake out like that. the first two have a high probability of working out.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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Re: 2021 Draft
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: January 11, 2021 07:21AM

Harris with the 50th pick? Really?

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Re: 2021 Draft
Date: January 11, 2021 07:50AM

samsam3738 Wrote:
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> Harris with the 50th pick? Really?


I'd take him at #18, but the general consensus is he will be available at the top of the 2nd round yes.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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Re: 2021 Draft
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: January 11, 2021 07:54AM

We will see. By your standard lamar jackson wasnt supposed to go in the first round.

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Re: 2021 Draft
Date: January 11, 2021 07:55AM

samsam3738 Wrote:
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> We will see. By your standard lamar jackson wasnt
> supposed to go in the first round.

Explain that statement. I dont even know how a QB taken in 2017 has to do with a RB in this years draft.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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Re: 2021 Draft
Posted by: astro34 ()
Date: January 12, 2021 02:45AM

will Harris stay to #50 probably not but I took a chance and it worked out. My back up plan was to take Javonte Williams RB UNC in the 3rd or 4th round, if he was not there

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Re: 2021 Draft
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: January 12, 2021 03:05AM

We all have dreams astro.

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Re: 2021 Draft
Posted by: astro34 ()
Date: January 12, 2021 05:42AM

just read an interesting scenerio..... If Fields is there at #3 we draft him and send Tua to SF for the #11 pick and take the player we want. Basically upgrading the QB position and still getting another good player.

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Re: 2021 Draft
Date: January 12, 2021 12:40PM

astro34 Wrote:
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> just read an interesting scenerio..... If Fields
> is there at #3 we draft him and send Tua to SF for
> the #11 pick and take the player we want.
> Basically upgrading the QB position and still
> getting another good player.


My Younger son showed me that before. My Oldest loves TUA. My younger son thinks we should go after fields if available. But I think its a moot point. The Jets will take Fields with the #2 and then trade Darnell for a fresh rebuild with a new coach and direction.

If Fields IS THERE at #3 and the Jets choose to rebuild around Darnell it will get very interesting very quickly.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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Re: 2021 Draft
Posted by: jlyell13 ()
Date: January 17, 2021 03:23PM

astro34 Wrote:
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> Just ran a simulation, here is my draft:
>
> #3 - Penei Sewell, OT Oregon
> #18 - Devonta Smith, WR Alabama
> #36 - Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah - LB Notre Dame
> #50 Najee Harris - RB Alabama
> #81 Creed Humphrey- C Oklahoma
> #120 Marvin Wilson - DL Florida State
> #196 Nolan Turner - S Clemson
> #253 Xavier K9elly - DL Arkansas


No way Smith is there at 18, maybe Waddle
Don't think Harris or Etienne are there at 50, nor Humphrey at 81



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/17/2021 03:37PM by jlyell13.

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Re: 2021 Draft
Posted by: astro34 ()
Date: January 21, 2021 06:54AM

Najee Harris was just added to the senior bowl line up. So the Miami coaches get to be with Harris and Smith for the whole week.

Even though I would rather have Chase, I would be ok with Smith at 3 and Harris at 18.

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Re: 2021 Draft
Date: January 21, 2021 04:01PM

astro34 Wrote:
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> Najee Harris was just added to the senior bowl
> line up. So the Miami coaches get to be with
> Harris and Smith for the whole week.
>
> Even though I would rather have Chase, I would be
> ok with Smith at 3 and Harris at 18.



I'd be cool with that if they are evaluating the Oline as well as see some great prospects to use in the 2nd round.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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Re: 2021 Draft
Posted by: Ken ()
Date: January 26, 2021 09:54AM

jlyell13 Wrote:
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> astro34 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Just ran a simulation, here is my draft:
> >
> > #3 - Penei Sewell, OT Oregon
> > #18 - Devonta Smith, WR Alabama
> > #36 - Jeremiah Owusu-Koramoah - LB Notre Dame
> > #50 Najee Harris - RB Alabama
> > #81 Creed Humphrey- C Oklahoma
> > #120 Marvin Wilson - DL Florida State
> > #196 Nolan Turner - S Clemson
> > #253 Xavier K9elly - DL Arkansas
>
>
> No way Smith is there at 18, maybe Waddle
> Don't think Harris or Etienne are there at 50,
> nor Humphrey at 81

RE: Waddle won't get past NE if he's still on the board. If we want him we will have to take him at #3. Much the same as Chase or Smith.

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Re: 2021 Draft
Posted by: tsstamper ()
Date: January 26, 2021 11:10PM

> RE: Waddle won't get past NE if he's still on the
> board. If we want him we will have to take him at
> #3. Much the same as Chase or Smith.


So much to play out before the draft occurs (i.e. does NE go FA for QB or not), but my early (and admittedly, probably under-informed) understanding is that this year's crop of WR is like last year's in that there are a decent number that could go in the 1st round so that over-supply at the high end of the position grouping could collectively push each of the individuals down a bit.

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Re: 2021 Draft
Posted by: Ken ()
Date: February 10, 2021 05:05PM

I'd take a long look at this guy to be our young, groom-able, developmental backup QB to Tua, Desmond Ritter.

Intrigued by this guy too, OL Daniel Faalele.

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Re: 2021 Draft
Posted by: jlyell13 ()
Date: February 25, 2021 06:21PM

Sewells tape causing him to drop

If we stay hasc to be Chase , he's legit
Draft him and sign Allen Robinson and trade Parker

If we trade down Waddle or Toney

Smith like 163 lbs !

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Re: 2021 Draft
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: February 26, 2021 05:30AM

Jlyell watch out, dont tell tcpf sewells dropped down....He might faint.

TCPF Loves big fat Oline men.

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Re: 2021 Draft
Date: February 26, 2021 07:03AM

samsam3738 Wrote:
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> Jlyell watch out, dont tell tcpf sewells dropped
> down....He might faint.
>
> TCPF Loves big fat Oline men.


The fatter the better. Love to see him drop. Hopefully we can trade back , still get him and a choice receiver and RB with the same pick.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/26/2021 07:05PM by TreasurecoastPhinsfan.

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