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Re: Current Draft position
Posted by: Ken ()
Date: December 09, 2019 08:28AM

BPA, if Burrow and Young are gone. I think it would be hard to pass on a guy like Jeudy since We need receivers and at least two of our current guys won’t be back next year IMHO. Then wait until 22ish to grab a developmental QB in Hurts.

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Re: Current Draft position
Posted by: Fins72 ()
Date: December 09, 2019 09:03AM

Ken Wrote:
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> BPA, if Burrow and Young are gone. I think it
> would be hard to pass on a guy like Jeudy since We
> need receivers and at least two of our current
> guys won’t be back next year IMHO. Then wait
> until 22ish to grab a developmental QB in Hurts.


We need receivers but my thinking is, in the absence of a franchise quarterback, we have to rebuild the offensive and defensive lines. We desperately need an edge rusher and left tackle. Davenport stinks. Webb is not much better. I'd go in this direction and address the receiver situation later in the draft or in free agency.

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Re: Current Draft position
Posted by: astro34 ()
Date: December 09, 2019 09:45AM

Our current draft position is precarious. If a play goes differently in the redskin and jet game we would have 5 wins right now and picking 11th. Conversely, if the Colts kicker could make a kick they would be leading their division with Houston a wild card team and Steelers out of playoffs.

With our picks I do believe that we could pick any number of players in a variety of ways and be a better team because we would get more talent. But the trick is to maximize the picks.

In our first 6 picks (which would be third round) if we get:
OT, C/G, Edge, QB, WR, RB or CB (I know there are 7) in any order I would be happy.

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Re: Current Draft position
Posted by: jlyell13 ()
Date: December 09, 2019 02:09PM

Parker has finally shown up. I liked Preston, Herns is toast , Wilson and Grant injury prone. Have to get a playmaker or two . The draft is fairly deep in WR why I like Cager late

Gandy Golden is the sleeper. He is legit watch his tape

We have like 14-15 picks . Definitely need OL, DE, DB RB , WR, QB unless we pursue Bridgewater Winston or Carr? Raiders may pursue Hurts

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Re: Current Draft position
Posted by: jlyell13 ()
Date: December 09, 2019 05:13PM

Agree we need OL, DE, WR, QB, RB, DB

Unless we pursue a Bridgewater or Carr? Raiders rumored to like Hurts

Have what 14 picks?

Antonio Gandy Golden remember that name and watch the tape

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Re: Current Draft position
Date: December 09, 2019 07:00PM

The Miami Dolphins, who are now 3-9, are projected to have the Nos. 4, 20 and 25 picks .


Andrew Thomas OL

JAVON KINLAW DL

D'ANDRE SWIFT RB


Heres my Top 3 if we cant trade down. Swift will almost certainly be a Top 10 pick with Thomas.We improve the running game along with the Oline our QB , who ever it is gets instantly better .
At 36 and relatively healthy, I think Fitz has 3 solid yrs left if we continue to improve that oline.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 12/09/2019 09:27PM by TreasurecoastPhinsfan.

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Re: Current Draft position
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: December 09, 2019 09:32PM

LOL

So TC is suggesting NOT ONLY that we pass on drafting a QB with our top three first round pick, but that we pass on that pick altogether thus passing on possibly the next Larry Little or the next Kim Bokamper Instead he wants to trade back into the latter part of the first round in exchange for additional fifth or SIXTH round picks.

LOL. Thanks for being honest. You just hate the draft altogether.

But I'd remind everyone that the alternative to the draft is relying on our management.

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Re: Current Draft position
Posted by: captkoi ()
Date: December 10, 2019 09:06AM

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> LOL
>
> So TC is suggesting NOT ONLY that we pass on
> drafting a QB with our top three first round pick,
> but that we pass on that pick altogether thus
> passing on possibly the next Larry Little or the
> next Kim Bokamper Instead he wants to trade back
> into the latter part of the first round in
> exchange for additional fifth or SIXTH round
> picks.
>
> LOL. Thanks for being honest. You just hate the
> draft altogether.
>
> But I'd remind everyone that the alternative to
> the draft is relying on our management.

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Chryen, ummm....I reread TC's post (above) and I couldn't find where he said he wants to trade back in the latter part of the first round.

With Miami picking 4th (probably), the top three guys will be gone. The (supposed) fourth best player is Thomas. He is supposed to be the number one OT in this draft. Will he be there at 4? Who knows. There are other good OL in this draft, so if Miami can trade back (not too far) and pick an extra pick or two, then go for it.

The more guys we can draft, the better the chances that Miami can get some starters and good backups.

Nothing wrong with trading back, depending on the deal that is made. Miami will also be active in the FA market, since they will have plenty of money.

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Re: Current Draft position
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: December 10, 2019 09:15AM

Looks like burrows will be gone.....So nobody else left because tua is a no no not even in the 7th his career is over.

So i dont mind us trading back and building the trenches etc....

Maybe next year we will have enough 1st rounders or ammunition that we can trade up and get the best available qb pound for pound.

We'll see what happens.

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Re: Current Draft position
Posted by: astro34 ()
Date: December 10, 2019 09:21AM

I could swear I thought treasure mentioned trading back when I read the post too. Not getting in the middle of the feud.

I do agree with you about the trading back. If there is a player we love then take him, if you can trade back a few and maybe get future draft picks along with the player we wanted, then go for it.

I mention future picks because we could trade back and maybe pick up a third this year, but we could possibly pick up a second next year. It seems like you can go up one round for a future pick.

If Young or Burrow is there please take them.

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Re: Current Draft position
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: December 10, 2019 10:25AM

The difference is astro.......He tcpf mentioned trading back when tua was still healthy.....


He didnt want tua who was the best college qb pound for pound before the injury....He didnt want lamar jackson and he didnt want desaun watson....

Do i detect a trend here?


I want us to improve the trenches when we have no other choice because burrow will be gone......Fromm is crap and the rest college qb draft class is crap.

Burrows is the only legitimate worth picking in the first. and he will go to the bengals unless the bengals do a whodini act and win the rest of the games and we lose the rest of the games.

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Re: Current Draft position
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: December 10, 2019 10:30AM

Maybe its time to start rosen.....He is damaged good anyways let him lose the rest of the games and then draft a qb in the first maybe in 2021.


Keep getting ammunition for 2021 and then trade up in the first to get the best qb prospect.

I wonder what tcpf will say if 2021 top qb prospect is dark skin.


Maybe he will want to trade down and keep getting them Olinemen.

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Re: Current Draft position
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: December 10, 2019 11:38AM

Sam,you're giving him too much credit, He just wants us to trade for Tannehill.

Look at the thread he recently created.

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Re: Current Draft position
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: December 10, 2019 01:39PM

Yup

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Re: Current Draft position
Date: December 10, 2019 05:58PM

captkoi Wrote:
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> ChyrenB Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > LOL
> >
> > So TC is suggesting NOT ONLY that we pass on
> > drafting a QB with our top three first round
> pick,
> > but that we pass on that pick altogether thus
> > passing on possibly the next Larry Little or
> the
> > next Kim Bokamper Instead he wants to trade
> back
> > into the latter part of the first round in
> > exchange for additional fifth or SIXTH round
> > picks.
> >
> > LOL. Thanks for being honest. You just hate
> the
> > draft altogether.
> >
> > But I'd remind everyone that the alternative to
> > the draft is relying on our management.
>
> **************************************************
> ***
>
> Chryen, ummm....I reread TC's post (above) and I
> couldn't find where he said he wants to trade back
> in the latter part of the first round.
>
> With Miami picking 4th (probably), the top three
> guys will be gone. The (supposed) fourth best
> player is Thomas. He is supposed to be the number
> one OT in this draft. Will he be there at 4? Who
> knows. There are other good OL in this draft, so
> if Miami can trade back (not too far) and pick an
> extra pick or two, then go for it.
>
> The more guys we can draft, the better the chances
> that Miami can get some starters and good backups.
>
>
> Nothing wrong with trading back, depending on the
> deal that is made. Miami will also be active in
> the FA market, since they will have plenty of
> money.



Lol. I only see this dip$***$ post when someone quotes him. Should have done this a while ago and will probably make it a permanent thing. Enjoying this place and positive debate again.

Yes thank you. I think that Burrows and Young will be 1 or 2. That's a given.
If we pick at #4" Do the math. Hopefully OL Thomas will still be there and not go at #3. Unless we love someone then draft down and pick up an extra OL in this deep draft. Picking a QB with #4 just for the sake of it is stupid. Too many holes to fill.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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Re: Current Draft position
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: December 10, 2019 09:07PM

When a person doesn't have the intellect to argue with someone, they usually do that,...go hide that is.

And we draft a QB because we don't know what Rosen can do, he's had a very small chance.

I like what he did with that chance but as I said many times, the quarterback is the engine of the modern pro football team. You can't operate the car without it.

There have been some examples of teams drafting a QB high in one year and doing the same thing the next year. We could do so this year and see what next year brings.

As I said before, QB is a very critical part of the modern NFL team.

Of course, I should remind everyone that Treasure has suggested that we bring Tannehill back.

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Re: Current Draft position
Posted by: astro34 ()
Date: December 11, 2019 06:39AM

Whatever position our draft picks end up in I do believe that Coach Flores will make an intelligent pick based on his background as a scout and his track record with signings this year. He is a smart cookie. Glad we have him leading this team.

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Re: Current Draft position
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: December 11, 2019 07:24AM

Chren he tcpf is just scared of you....lmao

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Re: Current Draft position
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: December 11, 2019 08:16AM

Its like a lil girl scared of talking to someone else. ROFLMMFAO

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Re: Current Draft position
Posted by: Rgphin ()
Date: December 11, 2019 10:19AM

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> When a person doesn't have the intellect to argue
> with someone, they usually do that,...go hide that
> is.
>
> And we draft a QB because we don't know what Rosen
> can do, he's had a very small chance.
>
> I like what he did with that chance but as I said
> many times, the quarterback is the engine of the
> modern pro football team. You can't operate the
> car without it.
>
> There have been some examples of teams drafting a
> QB high in one year and doing the same thing the
> next year. We could do so this year and see what
> next year brings.
>
> As I said before, QB is a very critical part of
> the modern NFL team.
>
> Of course, I should remind everyone that Treasure
> has suggested that we bring Tannehill back.


Why would anyone block a person. Beats me

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Re: Current Draft position
Posted by: Rgphin ()
Date: December 11, 2019 10:19AM

samsam3738 Wrote:
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> Its like a lil girl scared of talking to someone
> else. ROFLMMFAO


Don't have to be so harsh but you might be on to something.

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