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Re: Fitzpatrick to start again
Date: October 26, 2019 09:10PM

JC Wrote:
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> TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> >
> >
> > Never said they were. But proof he does have a
> > grasp on both sides of the ball...
>
>
> It's proof he *HAD* that BEFORE joining the
> Dolphins.


I've got a great book written by JJ. He describes how he was handcuffed on offense becuase he came to the Dolphins with a figure like Marino at QB. Alot of his draft decisions were based around him .....he said his greatest regret was treating Dan Marino differently then just a player, a piece of the offense. He urged Dave Wannabe to move on from him in 2000.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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Re: Fitzpatrick to start again
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: October 27, 2019 07:38AM

WOWWW!!! You just dissed Dan Marino and basically lamented the fact he was here DESPITE his HALL OF FAME career. And you are basically saying it would have been better for us to NOT have had him but to have had more linemen.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/27/2019 08:39AM by JC.

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Re: Fitzpatrick to start again
Posted by: mizzou15 ()
Date: October 27, 2019 09:27AM


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Re: Fitzpatrick to start again
Date: October 27, 2019 11:42AM

JJ is flat out lying his first 3 drafts were
> > defensive oriented. Filled with bust lbs like
> > Lacurtis Jones, Rodgers, Ward and Brad Jackson.
> > The only draft that was offensive oriented was
> the
> > 1999 and they all were bust. In rounds 1-4 of
> the
> > 1996-99 JJ only drafted 9 offensive players.
> None
> > of the skill position players made an impact.
> JJ
> > was better at coaching than drafting.
> >
> > 1996
> > 1 Daryl Gardener DL
> > 3 Dorian Brew CB Bust
> > 3 Abdul-Karim al-Jabbar RB
> > 4 Kirk Pointer CB Bust
> > 4 Stanley Pritchett FB
> > 4 Lacurtis Jones LB Bust
> >
> > 1997
> > 1 Green WR Bust/injured
> > 2 Madison
> > 3 Taylor
> > 3 Rogers LB
> > 3 Ward LB Bust
> > 3 Smith T
> > 4 Daniels T Bust
> >
> > 1998
> > 1 Avery RB Bust
> > 2 Surtain CB
> > 2 Mixon DL
> > 3 Jackson LB Bust
> > 3 Shannon WR Bust
> > 4 Bromell DL
> >
> > 1999
> > 2 Johnson RB Bust
> > 2 Konrad FB Bust
> > 3 Ruegamer C Bust
> > 5 Collins RB Bust
>
>
>
>
>
> I know your all hopped up trying to prove me wrong
> (not sure what I did to you but evidently I pissed
> you off somewhere) But I think your bust scale is
> way off. At least you bring facts to the
> table.thumbs up
>
>





Konrad , Ruegamer , Were busts? He took a chance
> on a few sure.....Cecil the Diesel for one, WR
> Green.....But his theory was the more picks you
> have the more players that start. And his Teams
> were ALWAYS Competitive.
>
> 1996- Rebuilding year (Picked Zack Thomas)
>
> 1997 Lost Wild Card Playoffs (at Patriots)
> 17–3 (Picked Jason Taylor)
> 1998 Won Wild Card Playoffs (Bills) 24–17
> 1999 Lost Divisional Playoffs (at Broncos) )
> 1999 Won Wild Card Playoff(Seahawks) 20–17
> 2000 Lost Divisional Playoffs (at Jaguars) 62–7
>
> No superbowls.....But he was on his way. His
> defense was the best Tom Brady ever faced
> according to Tom Brady. Life got in the way and JJ
> never coached again. I respect that because he
> didn't ditch the Dolphins for someone else like
> Nick Satan.
>
> Those were great years , some great games.
>
> That was no diss on Marino. But JC said his
> offensive talent wasn't up to parr. JJ said , and
> I have to agree.....he couldn't trade Dan Marino.
> He couldn't get a QB to even challenge him without
> him going nuts. Fans would have ate him alive too.
> Its a factor he didn't consider when taking the
> Job. So his offensive picks were different from
> what he might have choose otherwise.He struggled
> getting a running game going.His offensive line
> were pass protectors , not hole openers. Peyton
> Manning could have even been a Miami
> Dolphin......Or Ryan Leaf. eye rolling smiley

GO DOLPHINS!!!!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 10/27/2019 08:53PM by TreasurecoastPhinsfan.

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Re: Fitzpatrick to start again
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: October 27, 2019 04:41PM

mizzou15 Wrote:
-------------------------------------------------------
> >
> > I've got a great book written by JJ. He
> describes
> > how he was handcuffed on offense becuase he
> came
> > to the Dolphins with a figure like Marino at
> QB.
> > Alot of his draft decisions were based around
> him
> > .....he said his greatest regret was treating
> Dan
> > Marino differently then just a player, a piece
> of
> > the offense. He urged Dave Wannabe to move on
> from
> > him in 2000.
>
> JJ is flat out lying his first 3 drafts were
> defensive oriented. Filled with bust lbs like
> Lacurtis Jones, Rodgers, Ward and Brad Jackson.
> The only draft that was offensive oriented was the
> 1999 and they all were bust. In rounds 1-4 of the
> 1996-99 JJ only drafted 9 offensive players. None
> of the skill position players made an impact. JJ
> was better at coaching than drafting.
>
> 1996
> 1 Daryl Gardener DL
> 3 Dorian Brew CB Bust
> 3 Abdul-Karim al-Jabbar RB
> 4 Kirk Pointer CB Bust
> 4 Stanley Pritchett FB
> 4 Lacurtis Jones LB Bust
>
> 1997
> 1 Green WR Bust/injured
> 2 Madison
> 3 Taylor
> 3 Rogers LB
> 3 Ward LB Bust
> 3 Smith T
> 4 Daniels T Bust
>
> 1998
> 1 Avery RB Bust
> 2 Surtain CB
> 2 Mixon DL
> 3 Jackson LB Bust
> 3 Shannon WR Bust
> 4 Bromell DL
>
> 1999
> 2 Johnson RB Bust
> 2 Konrad FB Bust
> 3 Ruegamer C Bust
> 5 Collins RB Bust

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Re: Fitzpatrick to start again
Posted by: captkoi ()
Date: October 31, 2019 01:15PM

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> You start with a quarterback and unless he's got
> the quickest release in history like Dan Marino,
> you then draft an O line to make sure he has
> enough time to pass. Now Tannehill had enough time
> but was so indecisive, he got sacked anyway.
>
> Thirdly, you draft receivers. Then you go the
> other side of the ball. First there are pass
> rushers. Then smart secondary players.
>
> So QB, Oline, rbs, wrs, dline, d secondary, and
> last special team players.

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I don't know, Chryen; as for Tanneyhill, he is doing a pretty good job with Tenn.

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Re: Fitzpatrick to start again
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: October 31, 2019 03:14PM

Tenn plays the same TYPE of offense as his college, TA&M, and his Big Springs High School, Cap.

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