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I love it. As bad as Gase's play-calling was, his biggest weakness was player evaluation. The jets are going to rue the day they put Gase in charge of the roster. Gase is loony enough to sign Osweiler and have him start over Darnold. The clown show is now officially in New York (or New Jersey I guess).
Wow Jets are stupid. Maccagnan was the best thing going for them imo. Im glad Gase is there to screw things up. I was fearing their front office was just getting things right w/ their roster. Next up, Gase start trashing 'Maccagnan's players like Mobley and Bell.
Watching sports center. He did not like the contracts that were given CJ Mobley and Bell!! OK knowing that will make them want to play hard for him. Next he will start leaking detrimental news to the press on those 2. He is going to lose respect real soon in that locker room.
"Watching sports center. He did not like the contracts that were given CJ Mobley and Bell!! OK knowing that will make them want to play hard for him. Next he will start leaking detrimental news to the press on those 2. He is going to lose respect real soon in that locker room.
Gase is a first class Jerk."
Man, so true. Take the most talented players on your team...publicly shame them with "I don't think you're worth the money you got"...hope that they play their butts off for you during the season. What could go wrong?
It's going to be really interesting to see how he manages the continuity of his football team. I was pretty shocked when I read an article covering his promotion. I'm glad he's an opponent in our division because I think he got lost with our team.
He didn't do anything to impress me whatsoever, especially at the end of his tenure here before he got canned. I just can't figure out what the Jets see in him, in fact I was really surprised when they hired him to begin with.
Based upon Gase's tenure here, if a player doesn't kiss his ass, he'll be in the doghouse. I don't see Bell kissing Gase's ass so I'm guessing there's going to be some friction. Giving Gase final say on the roster is a HUGE mistake. The Miami roster became progressively worse each year of Gase's tenure here. Certainly having a bozo like Tannenbaum didn't help either, but Gase was responsible for a good bit of the dysfunction and dubious personnel decisions himself.
As I've stated several times in the past, Gase is not a leader. He lacks all those character traits needed to energize and motivate people. His approach as head coach is a distinct failure IMO. The Jets will perform miserably this season because of the chaos he brings to the table. He is unsuitable for any HC position. The Jets organization is in turmoil and Gase simply adds fuel to that turmoil.
We can't expect much from the Dolphins this season; yet, I surmise, the Jets may be a true cellar dweller in 2019.
Gase is so paranoid on peripheral issues so that he does not give 100% focus on what's really important. Also get the impression he has an insecurity complex with players. Since he did not play college ball he is really 'not one of them'. He attempts to be 'a players coach' but when he does not get the feel goody response that he wants from a player things get sour. I really think that's what happened with guys like Parker and Jones and surprisingly why they are still on the roster. Some guys just see thru him and there is not much there to respect. Yeah really, you made Peyton Manning a better qb? Yep standing next to Saban when u were a water boy in college made you a great coach. BS only goes so far w/ some of these guys.
Glad as heck he is gone and we have a guy that so far appears to command respect.
> The jets can tank all they want.....I dont mind if
> they pick number one overall...Since they do not
> need a qb.
> BUT THEN AGAIN YOU NEVER KNOW> It be sweet for
> them to make our phin lives miserable.
Can't agree with it being sweet.
Besides, even when Miami was good, couldn't the Jets still always cause Miami pain?
I had two big grievances with Gase. I remember the days...yes in the 70's, Treasure.... when we ran plays up the middle and the announcer would yell "CSONKA THE BULL!!!"
We didn't have that again until Jay Ajayi ran up the middle and I would say, "Ajayi the Bull."
However, for some reason, Gase got into some type of little snit with him and played him less and traded him.
Grievance number 2. On the other hand, the GENUINE A$$hole on the team was Kenny Stills. I have long complained about a play late in the game a few seasons ago when we were trying to come back late in the fourth quarter.
The ball was thrown to Stills who was caught it at about the opponent's 35 yard line. The defender stopped him there and held Kenny with his chest to Kenny's back. Then another Dolphin approached quickly and held his hands out and yelled for Stills to just back lateral the ball to that Dolphin.
Stills, the A hole, rather than give the ball to another Dolphin who would score the touchdown, selfishly refused to do so and the defender either took him to the ground or the ref blew the whistle for forward progress stopped.
So for Gase to basically tell Ajayi to get lost and keep an A hole like Stills on the team....well....
On your #1: I don't remember EVER hearing Rick Weaver call Csonka a "bull" (he used "bull" as a verb), but thats neither here nor there- Ajayi played a position that NFL offenses don't use much anymore (in my opinion, a mistake that I hope Flores will correct this year with our 7th rd. draft choice), but his big problem was that he was looking to break the big one on every play instead of taking what the defense was giving him. On days when he got the big opportunities, he looked all-world, but there were too many days that he had really poor numbers.
#2- I see your point of view, but that was ONE play, and lateraling the ball is a risky undertaking in the best of circumstances. I don't recall the play, but its possible, even probable, that Stills wasn't comfortable with the situation and so didn't want to take the chance. A turnover kills any chance of a comeback. It sounds as if you have other reasons to dislike Stills.
Rick Weaver was the "Voice of the Dolphins" on the Miami Dolphins Radio Network (which understandably, must not have affiliates in California).
He called the games on the Radio for a good 20 years. Listened to him many, many times as a kid on my handheld transistor radio. Even when games were televised, sometimes the TV commentators were so bad it was better to turn down the audio on the TV and listen to 610 WIOD and turn down the volume on the TV set.
Doctor Feelgood Wrote:
> Stills an asshole? LOL... just about *everything*
> you hear about Still suggests the exact opposite -
> that he is one of the nicest guys on the team.
> Doctor Feelgood Wrote:
> > Stills an asshole? LOL... just about
> > you hear about Still suggests the exact opposite
> > that he is one of the nicest guys on the team.
> and one of the hardest workers.
AND one of the strongest advocates for the local kids- he was last year's Dolphins' nominee for "NFL Man of the Year". He spends a LOT of his time out in the community. He's VERY popular around here.
Good stuff Rick. You just don't know the whole story about these guys. About 12 years ago the Raven's had 2 player's one was the face of the team. TV commercials, always interviewed after the game etc. the 2nd a WR everyone thought was a big jerk. I had a buddy at the time with the Ravens and I mentioned how the WR was a big ahole. He said let me tell you something when the PR folks come around with assignments nobody wants that guy grabs them. He does not like publicity. The less publicity the better for him that's how he rolls. He acts like an ahole so the reporters will stay away from him. That other guy always wants to know how many reporters and cameras are going to be there. If there is not enough cameras for him he is not taking the assignment.
That is when I learned to stop judging these guys by what I read in the papers and see on tv.
I'm not in a position to read Miami newspapers, I can just react to what I see on National TV.
No way in a play like that that the Network announcers or even game day analyzers would say, "Why didn't he just pitch the ball back??" that's not Kosher as they say in New York.
Maybe Stills really was afraid of a lost possession if he pitched the ball back it would result in a fumble but from my angle, there would have been no way that someone behind the second Dolphin could have scooped him on the ball and that other Dolphin certainly was begging for the ball.
So to me the only thing that explains his refusal was his not wanting the other Dolphin to get all the glory for the touchdown. If Stills laterals the ball, the play continues and when it results in a touchdown, the guy who crosses the goal gets all the glory. If Stills doesn't and is tackled there on the spot, he is the only one who gets credit for yardage, of course, besides the QB.
> I'm not in a position to read Miami newspapers, I
> can just react to what I see on National TV.
> No way in a play like that that the Network
> announcers or even game day analyzers would say,
> "Why didn't he just pitch the ball back??" that's
> not Kosher as they say in New York.
You didn't really say this, did you?
> Maybe Stills really was afraid of a lost
> possession if he pitched the ball back it would
> result in a fumble but from my angle, there would
> have been no way that someone behind the second
> Dolphin could have scooped him on the ball and
> that other Dolphin certainly was begging for the
> So to me the only thing that explains his refusal
> was his not wanting the other Dolphin to get all
> the glory for the touchdown. If Stills laterals
> the ball, the play continues and when it results
> in a touchdown, the guy who crosses the goal gets
> all the glory. If Stills doesn't and is tackled
> there on the spot, he is the only one who gets
> credit for yardage, of course, besides the QB.
We in SoFla have an engaged local news, as well as many ex-players that still have close ties to the team, and who do much for the community. All seem to agree on Stills' "can-do" attitude. Most work closely with him on community projects, and while some don't like his responses to the national anthem at all, all uniformly admire his dedication to the people of this area. Don't believe the your lowest common denominator in this case, a little research will tell the tale.