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Next Year's Roster
Posted by: SCPhinsFan ()
Date: February 01, 2019 09:26AM

Poll
How many players return from this year's roster?
Only registered users are allowed to vote for this poll.
10 votes were received.
Over 27 4
 
40%
Under 27 6
 
60%



Over/under how many players return from this years roster

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Re: Next Year's Roster
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: February 01, 2019 12:29PM

Zero....they all stink.....and dont get me started on tannewet firecracker tannehill.

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Re: Next Year's Roster
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: February 01, 2019 12:45PM

Are you answering how many SHOULD return, Sam or how many WILL return? The question is how many WILL return.

If the pattern continues, all that stink WILL return. That means every one of them WILL return.

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Re: Next Year's Roster
Posted by: 808phan ()
Date: February 01, 2019 02:22PM

No worries Sam, check the phins.com news wire - You can celebrate. Looks like the Dolphins will be moving on from RT17.

Let's just hope that we end up with a new QB who gives the team a better chance instead of taking 2 steps backwards. Same goes for the new coaching staff...BTW, we just lost Darren Rizzi to the Saints.

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Re: Next Year's Roster
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: February 01, 2019 03:39PM

They never used Tannehill in the way in which he would be most effective.

He was a great High School Quarterback at Big springs.

He was a great QB and Sometimes receiver at Texas A & M.

But at the Dolphins, they tried to make him into Bob Griese without also having the Jim Langer, Larry Little, Bob Kuchenberg, Manny Fernandez, etc. necessary for him to make even a grade C.

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Re: Next Year's Roster
Posted by: colonel ()
Date: February 02, 2019 02:28AM

ChyrenB commented: "They never used Tannehill in the way in which he would be most effective."

Wide Receiver? smiling bouncing smiley

Just kidding of course....

In my opinion, there are many special team players that will remain on the roster, however, a good number of 2nd string players will not make it and, several starters will be cut or be traded to obtain more draft picks.

The team will be fielded with many new faces on the defensive line. Perhaps we can acquire one very solid LB to bolster the inconsistent LB play. Holes need to be filled at guard too. That is a must for whomever becomes the QB (rookie, journeyman or experienced veteran).

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Re: Next Year's Roster
Posted by: dolphan4545 ()
Date: February 02, 2019 11:05AM

samsam3738 Wrote:
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> Zero....they all stink.....and dont get me started
> on tannewet firecracker tannehill.

You are mistaken, they do not ALL stink, and the facts back that up. An amazing amount of ex-Dolphins have made the Pro Bowl and post-season games, not just this year (Suh, Pouncey, Williams) but also in years past (Larry Izzo, Lamar Miller and others). The problem seems to be that our coaches and front office can't tell which ones they are, or have excuses why getting rid of these guys is "best for the team". They seem to not be able to get these players to play up to their potential anyway. This would indicate that we have some of this type of player on the team now.
Hopefully, this newest regime can stop the bleeding.

Rick

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Re: Next Year's Roster
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: February 02, 2019 11:50AM

LOL. I meant as read option or wildcat QB. And that means occasionally a wideout.

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Re: Next Year's Roster
Date: February 02, 2019 02:45PM

Tannehill was never the problem. No offensive line, injuries, horrible coaching decisions.Several distractions......and he NEVER complained. Not even now as he is being blamed for everything that is so wrong with the Dolphins. Was he Dan Marino? Of course not. If your waiting for that your going to be forever disappointed. But he was extremely athletic and capable of winning a championship. Like Marino proved it takes a TEAM...not 1 player to win a Superbowl. The Miami Dolphins are failures.......Not Ryan Tannehill.

BUT good news is that we will be Superbowl bound the minute hes cut right? I mean he seems to be everyones laser focus on why we sucked.

Whoo Hoo! Superbowl at the Hard Rock next season! eye rolling smiley

Next year we get a roof and despite the shade.......a lot more sunshine blown up our asses!!!!

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Re: Next Year's Roster
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: February 02, 2019 05:01PM

Marino was a guy with a great offense and no defense. My ex wife, a Baltimore Colts fan at the time, used to say that all other teams had to do is outscore us because we had no defense. I also remember times when we had no running game. We lost the SuperBowl played at the Rose Bowl because we couldn't make a first down to run out the clock and had to give the ball back to Riggins.

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Re: Next Year's Roster
Date: February 02, 2019 05:44PM

Ooooooook? So you agree when its Marino that didnt have a complete team becuase he garnered personal records, but not having a complete Team is Tannys fault how ?eye rolling smiley

Next year we get a roof and despite the shade.......a lot more sunshine blown up our asses!!!!

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Re: Next Year's Roster
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: February 02, 2019 06:03PM

Ha, ha. Everyone recognizes that the absence of a passing game was NOT what we DIDN'T have under Marino.

The point was that you need a COMPLETE team....NOT that we won't with Tannehill being used properly.

You know what puzzles me, TC??? Instead of just joining me and saying they are misusing him, why do you insist on defending management. Are you an Uncle Tom for Dolphin ownership?

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Re: Next Year's Roster
Posted by: mizzou15 ()
Date: February 03, 2019 08:29AM

I would not say they all stink but I would say very few deserve to return. Im happy to see Tanne go even when things were right around him I never saw enough from him to make me think that he could take us to the next level. Goff and Prescott were sacked often but elevated their teams. New coaches, new GM new qb let's go.

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Re: Next Year's Roster
Posted by: pafinfan ()
Date: February 03, 2019 12:21PM

colonel Wrote:
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> ChyrenB commented: "They never used Tannehill in
> the way in which he would be most effective."
>
> Wide Receiver? smiling bouncing smiley
>
> Just kidding of course....
>
> In my opinion, there are many special team players
> that will remain on the roster, however, a good
> number of 2nd string players will not make it and,
> several starters will be cut or be traded to
> obtain more draft picks.
>
> The team will be fielded with many new faces on
> the defensive line. Perhaps we can acquire one
> very solid LB to bolster the inconsistent LB play.
> Holes need to be filled at guard too. That is a
> must for whomever becomes the QB (rookie,
> journeyman or experienced veteran).


There are so many holes that it would be easier to pick where Miami doesn't need new blood.
Long snapper. I never hear complaints about him, he should get resigned. If he isn't too old.

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Re: Next Year's Roster
Posted by: Ken ()
Date: February 03, 2019 09:59PM

I think this is a good guess...the one's that don't have a comment are ? We simply can't and won't go crazy cutting players.

Ryan Tannehill - Gone
Frank Gore - Gone
Danny Amendola - Gone
Kenny Stills - Back
Ja'Wuan James - Back
Laremy Tunsil - Back
Ted Larsen - Gone
Travis Swanson - Back
Jesse Davis - Gone
Robert Quinn - Back
Cameron Wake - Gone
Davon Godchaux - Back
Akeem Spence
Kiko Alonso - Gone
Jerome Baker - Back
Raekwon McMillan - Back
Xavien Howard - Back
Bobby McCain
Minkah Fitzpatrick - Back
Reshad Jones - Back
T.J. McDonald
Jason Sanders
Matt Haack
Walt Aikens
Chase Allen
Stephone Anthony
Cornell Armstrong
Isaac Asiata
Kalen Ballage - Back
Brandon Bolden - Back
Andre Branch
Jake Brendel
Brice Butler
Leonte Carroo - Gone
Jalen Davis
John Denney - Back
A.J. Derby
Kenyan Drake - Back
David Fales - Gone
Luke Falk - Back
Isaiah Ford - Back
Mike Gesicki - Back
Jakeem Grant - Back
MarQueis Gray
Charles Harris - Back
William Hayes
Evander Hood - Gone
Mike Hull
Wesley Johnson
Daniel Kilgore
Torry McTyer - Gone
Kendrick Norton
Nick O'Leary
Brock Osweiler - Gone
DeVante Parker - Gone
Senorise Perry
Josh Sitton
Maurice Smith
Durham Smythe - Back
Zach Sterup
Cordrea Tankersley - Back
Vincent Taylor
Sylvester Williams
Albert Wilson - Back
Jonathan Woodard
Sam Young - Gone

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Re: Next Year's Roster
Posted by: mizzou15 ()
Date: February 04, 2019 02:48AM

I pretty much agree w/ your projections. I hope we attempt to trade players w/ value 6th or 7th rnd picks for Amendola and Alonzo. Try to get more for Tanne and Parker. Im for trading Jones for a 4th. Too much duplicity between him and McDonald. I would keep O'leary and include Smythe in a trade package again duplicity (good blockers, limited as receivers).

Also Im hoping Danny Shelton follows Flores to MIA as an UFA. For QB I would try to bring in Joe Flacco for 2 years. Some might laugh but Flacco's strength are the long ball (better use of Stills. Lewis, Grant) and he knows how to utilize his TE's (which we have been under utilizing). He is an ugly duckling at qb but might be our best option for where we are right now.

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Re: Next Year's Roster
Date: February 04, 2019 02:47PM

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> Ha, ha. Everyone recognizes that the absence of
> a passing game was NOT what we DIDN'T have under
> Marino.
>
> The point was that you need a COMPLETE team....NOT
> that we won't with Tannehill being used properly.
>
> You know what puzzles me, TC??? Instead of just
> joining me and saying they are misusing him, why
> do you insist on defending management. Are you an
> Uncle Tom for Dolphin ownership?

WTF are you talking about? You are not very confident in your arguments becuase you always want someone to "join" you. If that doesnt work you start a poll to show how many think like you so You must be right.

Im not defending anybody. I watched Tannihill practice from day 1. Trust me he was incredible to watch. Incredible raw talent and athleticism. My argument always has been and always will be... .lack of coaching , several Offensive coordinators, and an extreme offensive lack of any Oline protection. The fact that he was still a very capable QB at times is nothing short of amazing.

Hopefully Flores does better with the next Rookie QB.And doesnt destroy him like a 17 yr old with a new Dodge Viper.

Next year we get a roof and despite the shade.......a lot more sunshine blown up our asses!!!!

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Re: Next Year's Roster
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: February 04, 2019 03:11PM

You JUST said yourself that he was athletic. THINK ABOUT IT!!!!

Doesn't that mean that he should NOT have been confined to the pocket??????????

Duhhhhhhhhhhhhhhh!!!!!!!

How often is Cam Newton confined to the pocket???????????


Tannehill is NOT BOB GRIESE.

He gets nervous and falls to pieces inside the pocket.

For Godsakes, just look at his face.

So I've just now realized that as much as you talk about Tannehill, his jersey and your son, you really are a servant of the status quo and whoever the hell is in charge, no matter how lousy they are!!!

If you were a true fan of Tannehill, you'd be mad at the mess they have made of and continue to make of his career.

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Re: Next Year's Roster
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: February 04, 2019 03:13PM

By the way, TC and the other readers, there is something wrong with your posting. Everytime I try to hit the quote function and then type from there, the message comes out blank when I hit "preview". The above response I did was like this one, just typed without the quote function

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Re: Next Year's Roster
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: February 04, 2019 03:15PM

Come to think of it, Treasure. You might be carrying around a virus and for your own protection, you should get your pc or whatever device you use checked out. That same virus may allow whoever is hacking you into your financial information.

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Re: Next Year's Roster
Date: February 05, 2019 07:43AM

I post from several locations, this site is just Jacked.

Chyrene, the rest of your post makes no sense. He never made a great pocket passer because the oline never gave him 2-3 seconds to create one. Dont believe me? Go start a poll.....eye rolling smiley

Next year we get a roof and despite the shade.......a lot more sunshine blown up our asses!!!!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 02/05/2019 12:53PM by TreasurecoastPhinsfan.

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Re: Next Year's Roster
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: February 05, 2019 10:28AM


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Re: Next Year's Roster
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: February 05, 2019 11:40AM

samsam3738 Wrote:
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> And when they gave him time he still could not get
> the job done. He is not the type of player that
> you build a team around.
>
> Thats why they will give him the AX.
>
>
> Now you will go into a state of depression because
> your boy tannehill is going to be more gone than a
> homerun.

And this post by Sam went blank after your post, Treasure. Suit yourself but I'm just trying to keep someone from emptying your bank or credit card accounts.

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Re: Next Year's Roster
Date: February 05, 2019 12:55PM

Sams blank post made more sense.

Next year we get a roof and despite the shade.......a lot more sunshine blown up our asses!!!!

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Re: Next Year's Roster
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: February 05, 2019 01:50PM

I love it when peoplelaugh at my warnings.

It relieves me of any guilt for laughing at their later misfortunes which I tried to warn them of and they laughed off.

I've got my soft drink and popcorn, Treasure. I'm waiting to hear that someone cleaned out your bank account because your petty feud with me and Sam over Tannehill was so important that you could not think of anything else.

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Re: Next Year's Roster
Posted by: Ken ()
Date: February 05, 2019 03:25PM

I for one would like to see RT behind a line that gives him time to go through three or four progressions per play and throw to a group of guys that actually get open more often than not.

Not going to happen with us, but regardless, I'd still like to see it.

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Re: Next Year's Roster
Posted by: colonel ()
Date: February 05, 2019 03:36PM

The quote function is not operating. My tests didn't work. I've had to do it the old fashioned way and reference the person, and pasting in the comment with quotes. E.g.--

Ken stated: "Not going to happen with us, but regardless, I'd still like to see it."

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Re: Next Year's Roster
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: February 05, 2019 05:10PM

Ken in the early part.....say from 2012 thru 2015 or 2016, he's DID get that the time necessary for any average pro QB but would get sacked because inevitably, no Olineman can block forever without holding at some point. Tannehill would just nervously look around until his protection broke down.

That's what Sam and I complained about then.

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Re: Next Year's Roster
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: February 06, 2019 03:51AM

It seemed like he waited without making some kind of a move to scramble until he got sacked.

He was very unconfortable in the pocket.

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Re: Next Year's Roster
Date: February 06, 2019 04:03AM

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> I love it when peoplelaugh at my warnings.
>
> It relieves me of any guilt for laughing at their
> later misfortunes which I tried to warn them of
> and they laughed off.
>
> I've got my soft drink and popcorn, Treasure. I'm
> waiting to hear that someone cleaned out your bank
> account because your petty feud with me and Sam
> over Tannehill was so important that you could not
> think of anything else.

So you have no argument. Zero zilch as usual.........so you have to wish some weird ecominic crime on me that you invented? You hit a new low.

At least Sam is in a good mood. His Patriots won....

Next year we get a roof and despite the shade.......a lot more sunshine blown up our asses!!!!

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