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Re: Backup QB situation
Posted by: dolphan4545 ()
Date: May 13, 2018 08:51PM


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Re: Backup QB situation
Posted by: dolphan4545 ()
Date: May 13, 2018 08:53PM

"Moore just had a noodle arm."

Not true. Moore was known for his ability to throw deep. Fales cannot even come close.

Rick

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Re: Backup QB situation
Posted by: dolphan4545 ()
Date: May 13, 2018 09:04PM

ChyrenB, I'm mystified as to what post of mine that you are referring to. I don't find anything in your post that I would strenuously object to.

Rick

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Re: Backup QB situation
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: May 13, 2018 10:50PM

Rick, now this is REALLY funny because I can't find the post to which you are referring when you said I was referring to one of your posts.

Just quote it and post "***bump****"

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Re: Backup QB situation
Posted by: mizzou15 ()
Date: May 14, 2018 03:08AM

Moore has an arm, my problem with him was that he could not sustain a high level of play for an entire game, a 50/50 guy. Good enough 50% of the time. Fales is a guy I noticed in his JR year at San Jose St, while checking out that cb they had, Benewikere(sp?). I noticed he got the ball out quickly, his release was almost like Marino (forgive the sacrilege). Not a strong arm but the ball got there, good accuracy. I liked him and checked out several games his Sr year. Did not raise his level of play but enough was there. So I see what Gase sees in him. Yet I still wanted to add more talent behind Tanne this year thru the draft.

Osweiler is not as good as either in my opinion. Always thought he was a poor man's Moore. That is not a good thing. Also thinking that is one of Tannenbaum's choices. Tannenbaum did not come up thru the ranks as a scout . Strictly an admin if you read his resume. Player evaluation does not appear to be a strong area for him yet he is in charge of free agent acquisitions. Grier handles the draft as I understand it. I think that is one of our big problems.

btw the article mentioned Fales was drafted in the 4th but he was drafted in the 6th. Amazing how some journalist are to lazy to check out facts and the editors do catch the errors.

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Re: Backup QB situation
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: May 14, 2018 05:35AM

dolphan4545 Wrote:
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> "TCPF everytime tannehill plays like trash i will
> say he is a scrub.
> Its part of been a fan.
> And god knows he has had some terrible games."
>
> And, pumping him up when he plays well is
> also "part of been a fan". You generally forget
> about that part.


I guess you never saw me call him tannehill the real deal when he played well...Chren is witness.

But when he played like trash he got called out as well.

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Re: Backup QB situation
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: May 14, 2018 05:39AM

Also someone posted fales looked better than moore.

IMO Fales can stink and still look better than moore.

Moore was a mess.

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Re: Backup QB situation
Date: May 14, 2018 07:48AM

dolphan4545 Wrote:
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> "Moore just had a noodle arm."
>
> Not true. Moore was known for his ability to throw
> deep. Fales cannot even come close.


Deep? All his passes were lofted , no trajectory , which is why he was an INT machine.

Next year we get a roof and despite the shade.......a lot more sunshine blown up our asses!!!!

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Re: Backup QB situation
Posted by: Fins72 ()
Date: May 16, 2018 11:31AM

I re-watched the Buffalo game that Fales played last season and I still don't see anything that comes close to NFL caliber talent. His arm is not particularly strong. He doesn't put a lot of velocity on this throws. Literally every pass he completed was short and relied on the receiver to make yards for the first down. He was behind on several throws and was bailed out by Landry on a few of those (that ship has sailed). He had several interceptions dropped by Buffalo defenders. His one TD throw was a shuffle pass and really was a running play. I'm not sure on what happened on his last pass that was intercepted to lose the game but unless the receiver ran the wrong route, it wasn't even close to any Miami receiver. I'm still convinced that we'd have been better off drafting a QB in the latter rounds, either Falk, White, or Lauletta and try to develop him. At worst, a rookie QB would be no worse than Fales and quite possibly could turn out to be a keeper. I still think that Gase's worst quality as a coach is stubbornness and a need to always be right. That's the same quality that kept Dave Wannstedt from upgrading from Jay Fiedler because he was bound and determined to show everyone that he was right and everyone else was wrong. Never happened and ultimately it was one the many things Wannstedt screwed up that cost him his job. Gase seems headed for the same fate.

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Re: Backup QB situation
Date: May 17, 2018 03:31AM

I agree Landry did save alot of plays. He will be severely missed. But I believe Fales can close any game if the unthinkable happens.

Next year we get a roof and despite the shade.......a lot more sunshine blown up our asses!!!!

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Re: Backup QB situation
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: May 17, 2018 04:39AM


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Re: Backup QB situation
Date: May 17, 2018 09:24AM

samsam3738 Wrote:
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> TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I agree Landry did save alot of plays. He will
> be
> > severely missed. But I believe Fales can close
> any
> > game if the unthinkable happens.
>
>
> LMAO


Sam you shouldn't laugh with your mouth full.....

Next year we get a roof and despite the shade.......a lot more sunshine blown up our asses!!!!

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Re: Backup QB situation
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: May 17, 2018 09:47AM

TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
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> samsam3738 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > I agree Landry did save alot of plays. He
> will
> > be
> > > severely missed. But I believe Fales can
> close
> > any
> > > game if the unthinkable happens.
> >
> >
> > LMAO
>
>
> Sam you shouldn't laugh with your mouth full.....


Your is full of tannehill.

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Re: Backup QB situation
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: May 17, 2018 09:49AM

You so blind for tannehill you think fales can close out any games at a high level.


ROTFLMMFAO.

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Re: Backup QB situation
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: May 17, 2018 09:50AM

Fear not tcpf............gase believes in tannehills health just like you.

And its going to cost him his job.

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Re: Backup QB situation
Date: May 17, 2018 04:02PM

samsam3738 Wrote:
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> Fear not tcpf............gase believes in
> tannehills health just like you.
>
> And its going to cost him his job.


And why are you so sure he won't be healtby?unless your just hoping he won't be?eye rolling smiley

Take a second and think about what I said before you react.....

Next year we get a roof and despite the shade.......a lot more sunshine blown up our asses!!!!

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Re: Backup QB situation
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: May 18, 2018 01:52PM


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Re: Backup QB situation
Date: May 18, 2018 04:03PM


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Re: Backup QB situation
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: May 18, 2018 04:39PM


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Re: Backup QB situation
Date: May 18, 2018 09:33PM

ChyrenB Wrote:
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>
> WOW! That's exactly the way WE SEE YOU!!!!!!




Except I never said it was certain he would be healthy.eye rolling smiley


You both are completely convinced beyond a shadow of doubt to the fact that you believed only a rookie QB could save us for when he goes down.

You refuse to even fathom maybe he will be just fine and other positions and weapons might be the better option. WHY? Because you both want him injured and replaced. If we had a rookie QB in the wings you would be praying for it. Now you have only two options: Tannehill succeeds and you both have to marry me , or he fails and the Dolphins fail. Either way it sucks to be Chyrene and Sam Sam.
Me? I have hope. You dont.eye popping smiley

drinking smiley You know what? I should do this for a living......winking smiley

Next year we get a roof and despite the shade.......a lot more sunshine blown up our asses!!!!

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Re: Backup QB situation
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: May 18, 2018 11:29PM

TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
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> ChyrenB Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> > WOW! That's exactly the way WE SEE YOU!!!!!!
>
>
>
>
> Except I never said it was certain he would be
> healthy.eye rolling smiley
>
>
> You both are completely convinced beyond a shadow
> of doubt to the fact that you believed only a
> rookie QB could save us for when he goes down.
>
> You refuse to even fathom maybe he will be just
> fine and other positions and weapons might be the
> better option. WHY? Because you both want him
> injured and replaced. If we had a rookie QB in the
> wings you would be praying for it. Now you have
> only two options: Tannehill succeeds and you both
> have to marry me , or he fails and the Dolphins
> fail. Either way it sucks to be Chyrene and Sam
> Sam.
> Me? I have hope. You dont.eye popping smiley
>
> drinking smiley You know what? I should do this for a
> living......winking smiley

LOL, THIS is why I like you Treasure. You Are a romantic on the classical definition of the word in that you can be always counted on to hold fast to your position. I would like nothing better than a Super Bowl victory, partcularly with a quarterback who great up only 250 miles from where I grew up...Ryan Tannehill from Big Springs, Texas, near Lubbock.

I just 1) don't have confidence in his recovery and 2) just didn't want to pass on this draft class's QBs. I am pretty sure that if you could see disaster in that sense, Tanny out thzt is, you would agree.

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Re: Backup QB situation
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: May 18, 2018 11:33PM

TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
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> ChyrenB Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> > WOW! That's exactly the way WE SEE YOU!!!!!!
>
>
>
>
> Except I never said it was certain he would be
> healthy.eye rolling smiley
>
>
> You both are completely convinced beyond a shadow
> of doubt to the fact that you believed only a
> rookie QB could save us for when he goes down.
>
> You refuse to even fathom maybe he will be just
> fine and other positions and weapons might be the
> better option. WHY? Because you both want him
> injured and replaced. If we had a rookie QB in the
> wings you would be praying for it. Now you have
> only two options: Tannehill succeeds and you both
> have to marry me , or he fails and the Dolphins
> fail. Either way it sucks to be Chyrene and Sam
> Sam.
> Me? I have hope. You dont.eye popping smiley
>
> drinking smiley You know what? I should do this for a
> living......winking smiley

LOL, THIS is why I like you Treasure. You Are a romantic in the classical definition of the word in that you can be always counted on to hold fast to your position. I would like nothing better than a Super Bowl victory, partcularly with a quarterback who grew up only 250 miles from where I grew up...Ryan Tannehill from Big Springs, Texas, near Lubbock.

I just 1) don't have confidence in his recovery and 2) just didn't want to pass on this draft class's QBs. I am pretty sure that if you could see disaster in that sense, Tanny out that is, you would agree.

*TCPF's post edited (original and quoted) to remove vulgarity but preserve the Romantic theme --JC



Edited 2 time(s). Last edit at 05/19/2018 04:20AM by JC.

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Re: Backup QB situation
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: May 19, 2018 06:15AM

ROFLMMFAO....O_____________M_____________G


I havent laughed so hard 4 a while.


JC has got to be the best moderator on the net.


1...He cleans up the place and iam sure we all appresiate that...Even when we ourself cross the line sometimes.


2...And has a super great sense of humor


Thanks for that.

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Re: Backup QB situation
Date: May 19, 2018 06:33AM


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Re: Backup QB situation
Posted by: dolphan4545 ()
Date: May 19, 2018 09:09AM

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> Rick, you need to go back through the years and
> the threads. When we got Tanny from Texas A & M,
> where he had been a gunslinger in college and a
> run and gun slinger in High School in Lubbock,
> Texas (BTW only about 250 miles away from where I
> grew up), I saw it as a move getting us a double
> of Cam Newton. That's the way Tanny played in
> high school, QB/Receiver/gunslinger/runner.
>
> But Joe Philbin was the coach. He had the idea
> that if this guy was among the top 6 QBs in that
> draft, then he must be a Bob Griese type stay in
> the pocket QB.....and if not, then he must be a
> Dan Marino exceptionally fast release STAY IN THE
> POCKET QB.
>
> When we finally got Gase and some common sense, he
> moved Tannehill out of the pocket and we began to
> see some of the old Texas A & M quarterback.
>
> Unfortunately, AS CAN HAPPEN TO ANY FOOTBALL
> PLAYER, he sustained an injury being the run and
> gun guy he was most effective at.
>
> This has no relation to the draft which I argued
> we should draft his either eventual or immediate
> replacement but that's over.
>
> But better a run and gun natural QB who gets
> injured than a "deer in the headlight" guy WHO IS
> NOT COMFORTABLE IN THE POCKET and just stands
> there as events move fastly around him and he gets
> sacked after which the best we can hope for is
> that he does NOT fumble the ball while being
> sacked.
>
> You can't use a cow as a hunting dog and you can't
> milk a hunting dog.

You couldn't find this? If it hadn't been right above my "mystified" post, I wouldn't have bothered with this post. I wasn't interested enough to go looking.

Rick

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Re: Backup QB situation
Posted by: dolphan4545 ()
Date: May 21, 2018 06:44PM


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Re: Backup QB situation
Date: May 22, 2018 06:24AM

Could be better. BUT.....before Tannehills injury we didn't need a back up QB for 5 yrs. I'm pretty sure we take a QB next year. Lets think positive.

Next year we get a roof and despite the shade.......a lot more sunshine blown up our asses!!!!

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Re: Backup QB situation
Posted by: captkoi ()
Date: May 22, 2018 09:36AM

TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
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> Could be better. BUT.....before Tannehills injury
> we didn't need a back up QB for 5 yrs. I'm pretty
> sure we take a QB next year. Lets think positive.

*********************************************************

We more than likely will take a QB next year, but not a 1st rounder, unless....one of the better QBs falls to Miami.

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Re: Backup QB situation
Posted by: Fins72 ()
Date: May 22, 2018 10:53AM

captkoi Wrote:
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> TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Could be better. BUT.....before Tannehills
> injury
> > we didn't need a back up QB for 5 yrs. I'm
> pretty
> > sure we take a QB next year. Lets think
> positive.
>
> **************************************************
> *******
>
> We more than likely will take a QB next year, but
> not a 1st rounder, unless....one of the better QBs
> falls to Miami.


Falls to Miami? According to most experts, Miami will be picking first in next year's draft. Pray for Shea? Suck for Lock? Lustin' for Justin? Steer for Grier?

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Re: Backup QB situation
Date: May 23, 2018 12:38PM

Yeah......becuase the experts are always right.....

Next year we get a roof and despite the shade.......a lot more sunshine blown up our asses!!!!

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