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Draft prediction
Posted by: Fins72 ()
Date: April 23, 2018 07:11AM

This year's first round of the draft is looking more and more predictable (which means it probably won't be). My guess is that

1. Cleveland --Darnold
2. NYG- Barkley
3. jets-- Rosen
4. Browns--Chubb
5. Broncos--Allen
6. Bills (Trade with Indy) Mayfield
7. Bucks-- Derwin James
8. Bears- Fitzpatrick
9. 49ers-- Edmunds
10. Raiders-- Roquan Smith

Which means both linebackers worth taking at 11 won't be available for Miami which leads me to believe that Vita Vea is a likely pick at 11. Quenton Nelson could also be in play. Thoughts?

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Re: Draft prediction
Posted by: toko34 ()
Date: April 23, 2018 07:16AM

Depending what happens in top 5 selections, I could see various teams desiring a trade with the Colts.

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Re: Draft prediction
Posted by: astro34 ()
Date: April 23, 2018 07:28AM

Fins72 if the draft plays out the way yours does..... then sprint up and take Nelson! Will play every down at a very high for many years unless he gets hurt.

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Re: Draft prediction
Posted by: Fins72 ()
Date: April 23, 2018 08:00AM

astro34 Wrote:
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> Fins72 if the draft plays out the way yours
> does..... then sprint up and take Nelson! Will
> play every down at a very high for many years
> unless he gets hurt.


I agree. We still lack one starting caliber guard (I'm not high on Larson or Davis). Plus, Vea worries me. Lot's of potential but disappeared for stretches in a lot of games. Reminds me a little of Jordan Phillips.

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Re: Draft prediction
Posted by: astro34 ()
Date: April 23, 2018 08:26AM

watch Nelson's highlight tape on youtube. He literally blows up a backside blitzing CB against Georgia. Dude can really play, I would love that pick.

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Re: Draft prediction
Posted by: CincinnatiFinFAn ()
Date: April 24, 2018 07:55AM

I'm always a proponent of solidifying the trenches. A little out of my element here because I don't follow college ball enough to give an opinion of specific players. This year, I would like to see an early focus on interior defensive line, and hope McMillan pans out at ILB. our defense was 26th in sacks and 28th in interceptions last year .... those 2 stats tell me we ask our secondary to cover for far too long on passing downs. There is a lot of work to do on both sides of the ball, but protecting the secondary and the ILB with a reasonable pass rush will go a long way in solidifying the defense as a whole.

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Re: Draft prediction
Date: April 24, 2018 08:56AM

Your a smart man Cincy.

Next year we get a roof and despite the shade.......a lot more sunshine blown up our asses!!!!

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Re: Draft prediction
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: April 24, 2018 01:49PM

And we are not smart because we want tannehills replacement this year when there is a great crop of qbs as opposed to other years...

Tannehill is coming of an injury dude...


But you are blindly in love with his play and cant see anybody else playing qb for the phins...

You are so blind you cant even see there will be other drafts where we can improve the OLINE and defense in the first round.....((((Which hasnt worked for the last 20 years or so drafting OLinemen and defensive players in the first round))))))

YOu are a fan of tannehill NOT a fan of the dolphins.

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Re: Draft prediction
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: April 24, 2018 01:53PM

And there is free agency where you know what you are getting in the sense that these guys, unlike college guys, have played in the pros.

Yeah, you are going to say that holds for QBs too but the learning curve is much greater with linemen.

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Re: Draft prediction
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: April 24, 2018 02:03PM

And we did get a center and a guard which are very capable Olinemen in free agency this year....one from san fran the other i forgot where he came from

We have the same right and left tackle that will be better IMO....


No excuses if tannehill stays healthy and the Oline stays healthy....

I hated the landry departure but we still have some good receivers...

We do need a tend star though that can block and catch.

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Re: Draft prediction
Posted by: Ken ()
Date: April 24, 2018 02:44PM

If RT and the line both stay healthy all season...RT will put up another 4K+ season, bank on it. As far as the team making the playoffs, well the defense, running game, special teams and the coaches all have to do their parts for us to get there.

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Re: Draft prediction
Date: April 24, 2018 02:52PM

Ken Wrote:
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> If RT and the line both stay healthy all
> season...RT will put up another 4K+ season, bank
> on it. As far as the team making the playoffs,
> well the defense, running game, special teams and
> the coaches all have to do their parts for us to
> get there.


Cant add a thing to that Ken. Well said. thumbs updrinking smiley

Next year we get a roof and despite the shade.......a lot more sunshine blown up our asses!!!!

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Re: Draft prediction
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: April 24, 2018 03:15PM


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Re: Draft prediction
Posted by: jlyell13 ()
Date: April 24, 2018 04:19PM

Nelson would be a solid pick

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Re: Draft prediction
Posted by: Fins72 ()
Date: April 26, 2018 06:24AM

Ken Wrote:
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> If RT and the line both stay healthy all
> season...RT will put up another 4K+ season, bank
> on it. As far as the team making the playoffs,
> well the defense, running game, special teams and
> the coaches all have to do their parts for us to
> get there.


I have my doubts about that given the state of the current receiving corps but even if he does, all I care about are wins and losses. The reality is that this team in it's current state isn't likely to win more than 5 or 6 games. The receivers are average. We actually don't even have a number 1 receiver on the roster just a couple of slot receivers and a speed guy with questionable hands. The running backs are untested or old. The offensive line has lots of question marks. Can Tunsel play up to his draft status? He sure as hell didn't last year. Will Kilgore be a decent replacement for Pouncey? There was a reason SF replaced him. Will we find a guard that is starting caliber (and no, that's not Larson or Davis). The defense is even more of a question mark. We have no one that even comes close to replacing Suh. We have one linebacker who MAY be good but who is coming back from a knee injury and who is still essentially an untested rookie. We have two safeties who don't compliment each other. Don't even get me started on the defensive coordinator who wasn't even a good linebacker coach. Worst of all, given the idiots running this franchise, if I'm right and they win 3 or 4 games, we're not even assured that the morons who assembled this cast of characters will be fired because the owner values friendship over competence.

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Re: Draft prediction
Posted by: toko34 ()
Date: April 26, 2018 10:32AM

here is the TOKO® mock draft for the top 11 picks. Please note this isn't the level of quality of each player, nor what I would do... just what I believe each team will select.

1.BROWNS - Saquon Barkley!
2.GIANTS - Josh Rosen
3.JETS - Sam Darnold
4.BROWNS - Josh Allen
5.BRONCOS - Baker Mayfield
6.COLTS - Bradley Chubb
7.BUCS - Derwin James
8.BEARS - Tremaine Edwards
9.49ers - Denzel Ward
10.RAIDERS - Roquan Smith
11.DOLPHINS - Quenton Nelson

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Re: Draft prediction
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: April 26, 2018 12:06PM

Fins72 Wrote:
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> I have my doubts about that given the state of the
> current receiving corps but even if he does, all I
> care about are wins and losses. The reality is
> that this team in it's current state isn't likely
> to win more than 5 or 6 games. The receivers are
> average. We actually don't even have a number 1
> receiver on the roster just a couple of slot
> receivers and a speed guy with questionable hands.
> The running backs are untested or old. The
> offensive line has lots of question marks. Can
> Tunsel play up to his draft status? He sure as
> hell didn't last year. Will Kilgore be a decent
> replacement for Pouncey? There was a reason SF
> replaced him. Will we find a guard that is
> starting caliber (and no, that's not Larson or
> Davis). The defense is even more of a question
> mark. We have no one that even comes close to
> replacing Suh. We have one linebacker who MAY be
> good but who is coming back from a knee injury and
> who is still essentially an untested rookie. We
> have two safeties who don't compliment each other.
> Don't even get me started on the defensive
> coordinator who wasn't even a good linebacker
> coach. Worst of all, given the idiots running this
> franchise, if I'm right and they win 3 or 4 games,
> we're not even assured that the morons who
> assembled this cast of characters will be fired
> because the owner values friendship over
> competence.

You know Fins, I agree with every single thing you say. However, I say,therefore, even moreso, let's swing for the fences with one of the top QBs. Of course if the projected draft on the other thread is true, they will all be gone by 11 and this is all academic.

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Re: Draft prediction
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: April 26, 2018 12:50PM

Fins72 Wrote:
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> Ken Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > If RT and the line both stay healthy all
> > season...RT will put up another 4K+ season,
> bank
> > on it. As far as the team making the playoffs,
> > well the defense, running game, special teams
> and
> > the coaches all have to do their parts for us
> to
> > get there.
>
>
> I have my doubts about that given the state of the
> current receiving corps but even if he does, all I
> care about are wins and losses. The reality is
> that this team in it's current state isn't likely
> to win more than 5 or 6 games. The receivers are
> average. We actually don't even have a number 1
> receiver on the roster just a couple of slot
> receivers and a speed guy with questionable hands.
> The running backs are untested or old. The
> offensive line has lots of question marks. Can
> Tunsel play up to his draft status? He sure as
> hell didn't last year. Will Kilgore be a decent
> replacement for Pouncey? There was a reason SF
> replaced him. Will we find a guard that is
> starting caliber (and no, that's not Larson or
> Davis). The defense is even more of a question
> mark. We have no one that even comes close to
> replacing Suh. We have one linebacker who MAY be
> good but who is coming back from a knee injury and
> who is still essentially an untested rookie. We
> have two safeties who don't compliment each other.
> Don't even get me started on the defensive
> coordinator who wasn't even a good linebacker
> coach. Worst of all, given the idiots running this
> franchise, if I'm right and they win 3 or 4 games,
> we're not even assured that the morons who
> assembled this cast of characters will be fired
> because the owner values friendship over
> competence.


Exactly right!

And you forgot to say tannehill is coming off an injury.

So why not draft a qb in the first round this year that there is a good crop and build around him through this years draft and the upcoming drafts...

We need a plan for the future.

If we win anything is going to be in the future not now.

TCPF believes that this year we can fill all the holes we have on this team..

But guess what....

Its going to take more than a couple of years to fill those holes and by then tannehill wont be playing...

We are a mess talentwise and depth wise...

Look for the future.

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Re: Draft prediction
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: April 26, 2018 12:52PM

If the one with twitter issues falls to us and we dont pick him they have to take me to the hospital.

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Re: Draft prediction
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: April 26, 2018 12:57PM


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Re: Draft prediction
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: April 26, 2018 01:51PM

Let the one with twitter issues grow old with devante parker...


REBUILD REBUILD REBUILD.

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Re: Draft prediction
Posted by: Ken ()
Date: April 26, 2018 03:12PM

Here's the thing if RT manages to throw for more than 4K yards...he's doing his job and doing it at a high level.

But there is so much more to team success than the QB who is important for any who think I'm saying he isn't.

That's why I want us to draft Falk in rd 2.

If one of the top guys Falls and we take him at 11, I won't be upset either.

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Re: Draft prediction
Posted by: mizzou15 ()
Date: April 26, 2018 03:46PM

Wow Broncos took Chubb Rosen could very well be there at 11

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Re: Draft prediction
Date: April 26, 2018 05:13PM

I predict Sammy and Chyrene cry themselves to sleep.

Next year we get a roof and despite the shade.......a lot more sunshine blown up our asses!!!!

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Re: Draft prediction
Posted by: BigNastyFish ()
Date: April 26, 2018 05:17PM

Stop!

If Nelson is available at 11 (never!) OMG you have got to be
jumping up and down at 20kHZ to grab that!

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