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Re: My hope at No. 11
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: April 03, 2018 07:06AM

Maybe his new advice will be to play matt more and build a good team around him. He is almost as good as tannehill. And we will win the superbowl with a super team like that.

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Re: My hope at No. 11
Date: April 03, 2018 08:38AM

samsam3738 Wrote:
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> I wonder what his new advice will be?


Who Sam? My advice is stop listening to Hype and look at history and analyze it and come up with your own conclusions.

Big splashy picks are not always best for the team. It's a way for a losing team to create hype and sell seats.

Next year we get a roof and despite the shade.......a lot more sunshine blown up our asses!!!!

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Re: My hope at No. 11
Posted by: dolphan4545 ()
Date: April 03, 2018 11:37AM

Be careful that you don't fall into the same trap that has made PPF the marginal website that they are- ie., that statistics, while useful to a point, don't tell the whole story- or anything near it.

Rick

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Re: My hope at No. 11
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: April 03, 2018 02:05PM


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Re: My hope at No. 11
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: April 03, 2018 02:20PM


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Re: My hope at No. 11
Date: April 03, 2018 06:35PM

I was 17 when Marino started for the Dolphins. I don't think you actually read my posts. I've already addressed the 83 class several times.only 1 Superbowl winner from that class , Elway, and it took him 15 yrs.

Next year we get a roof and despite the shade.......a lot more sunshine blown up our asses!!!!

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Re: My hope at No. 11
Date: April 03, 2018 06:36PM

Yes the draft is all a gamble.i agree.
That's why I say draft down. More picks gives better odds to succeed.

Next year we get a roof and despite the shade.......a lot more sunshine blown up our asses!!!!

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Re: My hope at No. 11
Posted by: toko34 ()
Date: April 03, 2018 06:46PM

Pats pick up a 1st rounder for Cooks
Dolphs pick up a 4th rounder for Landry

Par for the Course.

Do we not have a negotiating specialist?

Management is terrible.

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Re: My hope at No. 11
Posted by: thegreathoo ()
Date: April 03, 2018 07:11PM

Primary pursuit in first rd every year is to get the winning QB, a QB that wins in his rookie contract, like Ben, Brady, Wentz, Russ, so that you know you have the Qb and can extend him and go for more SB runs.
Until we have that, we do not have the QB. And we do not have the QB right now.

The team invested in RT, Philbin trained him to an okay level. Then they extended even though he did not win, because stadium renovations got in the way and tesm figured maybe they did not give him the best chance to win.

But, that dynamic should not detract from the fact he did not win and we still do not have that phenom rookie. And that is still the priority over all else!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 04/03/2018 07:13PM by thegreathoo.

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Re: My hope at No. 11
Date: April 04, 2018 07:10AM

toko34 Wrote:
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> Pats pick up a 1st rounder for Cooks
> Dolphs pick up a 4th rounder for Landry
>
> Par for the Course.
>
> Do we not have a negotiating specialist?
>
> Management is terrible.


RIGHT!? WTF? Same with the Ajayi trade. angry smiley

Next year we get a roof and despite the shade.......a lot more sunshine blown up our asses!!!!

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Re: My hope at No. 11
Posted by: dolphan4545 ()
Date: April 04, 2018 02:35PM

If you must use the bleacher report as a source, please just give us a link. That way those of us that are disdainful(or worse) of these clowns don't have to read their ignorant junk if we don't want to.
They wanted to publish something I'd written as a fan on their site a few years ago- does that tell you something?

Rick



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Re: My hope at No. 11
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: April 04, 2018 04:07PM

dolphan4545 Wrote:
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> If you must use the bleacher report as a source,
> please just give us a link. That way those of us
> that are disdainful(or worse) of these clowns
> don't have to read their ignorant junk if we don't
> want to.

Response: Does this make sense to you? You want me to give a link....not for those people who trust Bleacher which would make sense because they could then verify the accuracy of what I am passing off as coming from Bleacher but instead I should post the link for the benefit of those who DON'T trust Bleacherconfused smiley??????


> They wanted to publish something I'd written as a
> fan on their site a few years ago- does that tell
> you something?

Did your post convey reasoning like the above????

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Re: My hope at No. 11
Posted by: Crowder52 ()
Date: April 04, 2018 04:26PM

toko34 Wrote:
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> Pats pick up a 1st rounder for Cooks
> Dolphs pick up a 4th rounder for Landry
>
> Par for the Course.
>
> Do we not have a negotiating specialist?
>
> Management is terrible.


Yeah I dont get this one either..We would have got a 3rd rd pick if we lost him in FA and didnt trade him through compensatory picks. But we traded him for a 4th? Either they were doing someone a favor in the Browns organization or they thought Landry was going to sign with one of our AFC east opponents in FA.. Because it makes zero sense what happened...

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All things are subject to interpretation whichever interpretation prevails at a given time is a function of power and not truth.
Nietzsche

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Re: My hope at No. 11
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: April 04, 2018 05:04PM


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Re: My hope at No. 11
Posted by: cedaphins ()
Date: April 07, 2018 10:01AM

LB Roquan Smith or QB Lamar Jackson

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Re: My hope at No. 11
Posted by: captkoi ()
Date: April 08, 2018 01:11PM

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> Bleacher says:
>
> MIAMI DOLPHINS
>
> The Pick: QB Josh Rosen, UCLA
>
> A few things that I believe:
>
> 1. Rosen will go higher than this on draft day,
> likely in a trade-up.
>
> 2. The Dolphins are all-in on investigating these
> quarterbacks and seeing if there is a successor to
> Ryan Tannehill here.
>
> If Rosen is on the board at No. 11, the Dolphins
> shouldn't hesitate to draft him. Rosen's mechanics
> and touch are the best of any quarterback in this
> class, but there is the issue that some teams may
> find him brash and hard to deal with. Whether or
> not Miami feels that way remains to be seen, but
> this is a franchise doing serious work on
> quarterbacks. Given Tannehill's injury history and
> bloated contract, it makes sense that the Dolphins
> would be willing to move on.
>
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Chryen: (1) True, the Fins are all in on investigating a QB. I believe it is only to get a team to trade up with Miami so they can get that extra pick(s). If one of those QBs is there at 11, will Miami take him, that is the question? (2) RT's injury history? He got busted up when Campbell hit him low. He did not get surgery. Hurt the same knee again (because he didn't get surgery). As far as I know...that's it for injuries. So, just based on that, I don't see a injury history. (3) RT would have received that contract, with his numbers, on any team. RT doesn't have Marino numbers, but he has done a good job. Now just get better weapons around him and fix the D. That's where the extra pick(s) will come in.

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Re: My hope at No. 11
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: April 08, 2018 01:48PM


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Re: My hope at No. 11
Posted by: mizzou15 ()
Date: April 09, 2018 02:33AM

Dolphins did not give Tanne a new contract in 2017(?). He was still playing under his contract extension. It became fully guaranteed regardless of injury in 2017. You can check over the cap for details.

I would rate Tanne over Henne and behind Pennington.

Earlier you wrote Todd Blackledge was not a bust, true he sucked.

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Re: My hope at No. 11
Posted by: captkoi ()
Date: April 10, 2018 09:19AM

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> captkoi Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> Cap, you are basically saying the same thing as
> Treasure. Here's why I think you are wrong.
>
>
> > Chryen: (1) True, the Fins are all in on
> > investigating a QB. I believe it is only to get
> a
> > team to trade up with Miami so they can get
> that
> > extra pick(s).
>
> RESPONSE: Although I would never bet a penny
> AGAINST anyone who is saying that the Dolphins ARE
> INDEED being idiots, which by my viewpoint you are
> objectively, if not subjectively, saying, I think
> they may indeed be sincere (and if not certainly
> should be) in looking at QBs first for the reasons
> I will argue below.
>
> If one of those QBs is there at 11,
> > will Miami take him, that is the question? (2)
> > RT's injury history? He got busted up when
> > Campbell hit him low. He did not get surgery.
> Hurt
> > the same knee again (because he didn't get
> > surgery). As far as I know...that's it for
> > injuries. So, just based on that, I don't see a
> > injury history.
>
> RESPONSE: So he did NOT get surgery as you
> acknowledge then got hit again in the SAME KNEE IN
> THE PRE-SEASON OF 2017 AND spent the ENTIRE 2017
> SEASON OUT WITH THE SAME INJURY, and you have no
> problems projecting that 6 months from now, in
> September or 2018, he will be (like Arnold
> Swarzenegger says) "BAACK"?????
>
> (3) RT would have received that
> > contract, with his numbers, on any team.
>
> RESPONSE: Strongly disagree. They gave him that
> contract in August 2017 RIGHT AFTER they knew he
> would be out for the season. They are idiots.
>
> If they had offered him a provisional contract
> with the same terms to become fully executable
> AFTER HE CAME BACK IN THIS YEAR, that would have
> been more like common sense, which is to say it
> would have been UNLIKE the usual operation of the
> CURRENT Miami Dolphin front office.
>
> RT
> > doesn't have Marino numbers, but he has done a
> > good job.
>
> RESPONSE: In my ranking of the NON- NON-
> N0N-Marino or Griese QBs, I would rank him way
> down and definitely lower than even Henne or
> Pennington.
>
> >Now just get better weapons around him
> > and fix the D. That's where the extra pick(s)
> will
> > come in.
>
> RESPONSE: Invest in a new paint job when the
> engine in your auto needs replacing.

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Chryen, RT did not reinjure his knee on a hit. He was going out of bounds when he planted/stepped awkardly.

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Re: My hope at No. 11
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: April 10, 2018 10:25AM

Well, we ARE talking about the man's viability. So whether it was a result of a hit or an awkward step..................

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Re: My hope at No. 11
Posted by: dolphan4545 ()
Date: May 03, 2018 08:49AM

What I was saying - which should have been blindingly obvious, even to you- was that giving us a link, which can then be avoided- is much better than a lengthy quote- which is an ethically questionable practice to be avoided, and is what you did. Again.

Rick

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Re: My hope at No. 11
Posted by: dolphan4545 ()
Date: May 03, 2018 09:12AM

" Invest in a new paint job when the engine in your auto needs replacing."

Oh, please. Another of your typical false analogies.

Rick

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Re: My hope at No. 11
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: May 03, 2018 09:45AM

dolphan4545 Wrote:
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> " Invest in a new paint job when the engine in
> your auto needs replacing."
>
> Oh, please. Another of your typical false
> analogies.


but itstrue..................the engine of this team is in crutches......why would you want get a paintjob when the engine is messed up and you cannot drive the car.

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Re: My hope at No. 11
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: May 03, 2018 10:12AM

Sam, I thought it was obvious. And last year was a perfect example. Tanny is out for the whole year. If Rick were right and the quarterback was NOT as important as you and I say, we should have NOT had such a sh*t poor season using our backups. And he's tripping on me NOT giving him a LINK to Ourlads?????

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Re: My hope at No. 11
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: May 03, 2018 01:59PM

Last year we should had rode fales all the way to a 0-16 season and we could of had that qb we needed this year. At least we would had known how good was fales.....

But gase rather save face and win six games with that retread cutler.....and when tannehill is out this year ....hopefuly not.......he will insert that other retread he signed this year and try and save his job once again with 5 or 6 wins again this year...


Pathetic.

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Re: My hope at No. 11
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: May 03, 2018 04:27PM

Everyone who has expressed an opinion on this thread will have his opinion nailed to his name like the crown of thorns was affixed to our Lord on the Cross. TC will always stand behind his opinion but people like 4545 Rick have a way of disappearing and only coming back to launch new attacks on new subjects. I not gonna let him or anyone forget this and pointing out that all but one of the QBs were gone anyway is not an excuse because the question is still what SHOULD we have done even before the draft and most everyone who posted (unlike the voters in the poll) were against taking a QB at number 11

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