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Kirk Cousins
Posted by: FootballGod ()
Date: November 04, 2017 02:32AM

What do you guys think about breaking the bank this off season and getting Cousins, who will be a FA? Obviously some serious cap gymnastics would have to occur and many players would have to be moved and restructured.

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Re: Kirk Cousins
Posted by: toko34 ()
Date: November 04, 2017 04:23AM

Why? Tannehill is better than that chump.

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Re: Kirk Cousins
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: November 04, 2017 10:09AM

Toko, I think the concern is that either Tannehill will not be back or will not be good after the injury to the knee. I always said he was better out of the pocket and was a terrible pocket QB anyway.

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Re: Kirk Cousins
Posted by: cedaphins ()
Date: November 04, 2017 10:18AM

If Tanny is worse than normal just draft a qb. Cousins is too expensive and not that great.

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Re: Kirk Cousins
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: November 04, 2017 10:42AM

Blough looked good today.

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Re: Kirk Cousins
Posted by: toko34 ()
Date: November 04, 2017 06:32PM

Medical science has come a long way, i believe Tanny will be as good as new. Or at least I hope so.

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Re: Kirk Cousins
Posted by: OCphin ()
Date: November 05, 2017 12:14PM

Congrats! Worst idea on this board in a long time!

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Re: Kirk Cousins
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: November 05, 2017 12:24PM


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Re: Kirk Cousins
Posted by: toko34 ()
Date: November 05, 2017 02:21PM

Cousins is in position to win this game for the skins..let me see what happens.

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Re: Kirk Cousins
Posted by: toko34 ()
Date: November 05, 2017 02:25PM

woah not bad-- 2 nice long passes under pressure have the Skins at the Hawks 1 yard line.

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Re: Kirk Cousins
Posted by: captkoi ()
Date: November 06, 2017 12:59PM

Cousins will cost too much.

Miami doesn't have the cash; they will have to cut some players and/or restructure a lot of contracts, i.e., Suh.

Paying Cutler $10M hurt Miami's cap.

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Re: Kirk Cousins
Posted by: thegreathoo ()
Date: November 07, 2017 08:19AM

We have 3 starter qbs on the roster, all vets, and none are good enough. At this point I am convinced the problem is coaching.

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Re: Kirk Cousins
Date: November 07, 2017 09:40AM

We need to break the bank on 2 Cornerbacks worth a Fuk , at least 3 O lineman worth a Fuk , and some depth.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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Re: Kirk Cousins
Posted by: JC ()
Date: November 07, 2017 12:32PM

thegreathoo Wrote:
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> We have 3 starter qbs on the roster, all vets, and
> none are good enough. At this point I am
> convinced the problem is coaching.


Fales is a starting QB???? confused smiley

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Re: Kirk Cousins
Date: November 07, 2017 03:51PM

We actually have none.

Cutler is out of retirement.
Moore is a career back up
Fales barely made 3rd string.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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Re: Kirk Cousins
Posted by: 808phan ()
Date: November 08, 2017 05:45AM

I give the Skins credit for having some insight -
They drafted Cousins during the same draft as RGIII. Were they smart enough to know that RGIII wouldn't last very long? They traded the house & barn to draft RGIII at #2 overall but still drafted a 2nd QB as well. I find that pretty interesting, especially since it seemed to work out for them in the long run.

I'm not for going after Cousins in free agency, I'd rather see what Tanny has in his tank after his recovery. I would rather see this organization prove that they have an eye for talent, that they're capable of finding a future successor to RT17 and build him up on their own. Sadly I have very little faith that those in charge are even capable of being able to fill the needs that this team has NOW, let alone the future of it. The OL & LB are definitely immediate needs. As fans we've been saying that for years so why has nothing changed?

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Re: Kirk Cousins
Posted by: thegreathoo ()
Date: November 08, 2017 07:09AM

We had already seen what RT is. The question is whether Gase can do great things with RT. I doubt it. The offense did okay last year because of the run game.
Dude was a project that Philbin developed and he did great. He gave us the qb. But he is not good enough, we need better. But most of all we need better coaching.

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Re: Kirk Cousins
Date: November 08, 2017 08:12AM

The best QBs available at the time, Luck and Griffin.....did no better.worse as a matter of fact. If Tanny returns back to his pre injury self he is more then good enough to run a championship team.

Lot of ifs though.....

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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Re: Kirk Cousins
Posted by: captkoi ()
Date: November 08, 2017 09:20AM

TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
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> The best QBs available at the time, Luck and
> Griffin.....did no better.worse as a matter of
> fact. If Tanny returns back to his pre injury self
> he is more then good enough to run a championship
> team.
>
> Lot of ifs though.....

*******************************************************

Miami's QB issue(s) for 2018 are, at best, "iffy."

Will RT be 100%?
Will Moore still be the backup (pretty sure he will)?
Will Cutler still be on the roster (doubtful)?

If RT is back to full health, release Cutler. Keep Moore on the roster. Draft a QB in the second round and develop him for the future, or....if he turns out to be a stud, RT's immediate replacement (if RT is only playing good).

First rounder must be for position of need.

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Re: Kirk Cousins
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: November 08, 2017 09:43AM

And what more position of need than QB.

Draft a qb in first round because tannehill is DONE.

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Re: Kirk Cousins
Posted by: Grimey13 ()
Date: November 08, 2017 09:44AM

Can we draft a GM????

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Re: Kirk Cousins
Posted by: thegreathoo ()
Date: November 08, 2017 12:12PM

Develop doesnt work. They took RT at 8 and it took 5 yrs to develop.
Gotta draft a stud qb, who can play, not a project.

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Re: Kirk Cousins
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: November 08, 2017 02:10PM

thegreathoo Wrote:
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> Develop doesn't work. They took RT at 8 and it took
> 5 yrs to develop.
> Gotta draft a stud qb, who can play, not a
> project.


Gospel.

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Re: Kirk Cousins
Date: November 08, 2017 02:37PM

captkoi Wrote:
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> TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > The best QBs available at the time, Luck and
> > Griffin.....did no better.worse as a matter of
> > fact. If Tanny returns back to his pre injury
> self
> > he is more then good enough to run a
> championship
> > team.
> >
> > Lot of ifs though.....
>
> **************************************************
> *****
>
> Miami's QB issue(s) for 2018 are, at best,
> "iffy."
>
> Will RT be 100%?
> Will Moore still be the backup (pretty sure he
> will)?
> Will Cutler still be on the roster (doubtful)?
>
> If RT is back to full health, release Cutler. Keep
> Moore on the roster. Draft a QB in the second
> round and develop him for the future, or....if he
> turns out to be a stud, RT's immediate replacement
> (if RT is only playing good).
>
> First rounder must be for position of need.


We cant waste any draft picks on a QB. Because a few good lineman will help make Tanny great again.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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Re: Kirk Cousins
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: November 08, 2017 03:03PM

ROTFALMFAO.

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Re: Kirk Cousins
Date: November 08, 2017 04:49PM

And a few good Cornerbacks will help KEEP it great again...........winking smileydrinking smiley

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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Re: Kirk Cousins
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: November 08, 2017 05:38PM

You do realize that your peeps are deserting him in NJ, Va., and Md.?

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Re: Kirk Cousins
Posted by: Grimey13 ()
Date: November 09, 2017 02:25AM

NJ, VA and MD are all blue states to begin with. VA because of the proximity of Northern VA to DC and all the bleeding heart Liberals that live there. It is more populous then most of VA.

I live in VA so I know...Trust me you go anywhere but Northern VA and you see nothing but MAGA and Trump signs everywhere.

It would be more of an upset had the Rep. won those states then how shocking that a Dem won. Doesn't change anything my friend. Now I just sit back and wait for my state taxes to rise and more sanctuary cities for me to pay for. Glad I live in the country and still able to carry my gun with me...

And BTW did you see the Dem's campaign video depicting a white man in a truck with a confederate flag in the back chasing down kids of all different races...I have lived in this area for 17 years and not once have I seen anything remotely close to this before. It was sickening. Politicians are all scum...no matter the side they are on.

But back to football...I hate picking OL in the first because of the boring factor but I think that is where we need to go as well. Any QB cannot play without a competent line to protect him.

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Re: Kirk Cousins
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: November 09, 2017 06:41AM

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> ROTFALMFAO.


Ditto to the 1000000 power. LMMFAO.


Maybe its the other way around. Maybe a good qb would make the olinemen good again.

Marino always had good olinemen because he was a great qb.Come on tim rudy? Donnalley? open your eyes tcpf, you blind.

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Re: Kirk Cousins
Posted by: thegreathoo ()
Date: November 09, 2017 07:34AM

Linemen play one on one. They will get beat, happens all over the league. The key is to play well as a unit and with the backfield. That goes to coaching and skill positions.
Second, two of the best guards in the league, Ronald Leary and Andrew Norwell were undrafted. IT is much easier to find interior linemen in UDFA than skilled players, linemen are available and skilled players not so much.



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