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vance joseph
Posted by: fiedlerhater ()
Date: January 11, 2017 12:03PM

Well I have to throw my opinion out there, and am not sure if people will like it. I am not sad to see him leave. This defense was terrible, yes I know that injuries played a part in it. But It was blatantly unguided and out of control. The same as cincy was at the end the year before. No discipline and zero adjustments when needed. I for one would love to see old Rex here. A complete genius for defense, terrible head coach. And while on the subject I would love to see pouncey and albert gone as well. I dont care how great you are, if you cant get on the field it doesnt really matter. You can find serviceable centers at half the cost that will be there all 16 games. Move smokestack to tackle and sign a guard. Thanks for any input.

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Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: January 11, 2017 12:26PM

I thought is was a bad idea if he left at the beginning of the news....But The more i think about it....

What the hell has he done to deserve been the broncos head coach.

Thats laughable.

The broncos are desperate.

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Posted by: Ken ()
Date: January 11, 2017 12:38PM

As long as we bring in a guy with a good workable system I'm all for it...I was never totally hot on Joseph as a DC anyway. JMO, but NO to Rex Ryan in Miami.

We have to fix our O-Line too this off season...Our O-Line was ranked 30th this season.

Ja'Wuan James was our highest rated overall O-Line player at #30 league wide. (He was also rated #18 in run blocking) Our top pass blocking player was Laremy Tunsil at #40 league wide.

Bushrod was the worst rated OG league wide and allowing 5 sacks, 34 QB pressures,

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Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: January 11, 2017 12:58PM

Key about the Oline was when they were all healthy they were very good.

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Posted by: jsm08 ()
Date: January 11, 2017 01:08PM

Reports say they're promoting Matt Burke from LB coach to DC.

I'm going to take Gase and Elway's opinions of Joseph instead of the stats are make shift D compiled. We weren't a very talented defense this year.

Good luck to Vance and here's to hoping Burke doesn't suck.

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Posted by: mizzou15 ()
Date: January 11, 2017 01:15PM

Joseph did a good job here and I wish him well in DEN except when we play them. Burke's a smart guy time to see what he's got.

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Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: January 11, 2017 01:23PM

We will never have continuity like this.

Although vance joseph did a good job with the players he had on defense and injuries ect and i think he is not head coach material....

He is not a terrible defensive coordinator...

What i mean is now next year.....We will have a different defensive scheme and learning a new defensive playbook...

Again how can we have any continuity year after year.

Maybe one day we will get it right.

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Posted by: mizzou15 ()
Date: January 11, 2017 02:05PM

Matt Burke spent a couple of years w/ Joseph in Cincy so he should know his defense.Phins promoting him is maintaining continuity. This way we keep the same defense.

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Re: vance joseph
Date: January 11, 2017 04:51PM

samsam3738 Wrote:
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> We will never have continuity like this.
>
>

You mean like when Philbin went through 3 Offensive coordinators in Tannehils 5 seasons?

you think mmmmmmmaybe that hampered his success just a bit? And he still managed 4000 yds . Our defense has hampered us for a while now. GASE will get it straight.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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Posted by: colonel ()
Date: January 12, 2017 06:36AM

What was the team ranked against the run? 30th? I'm not sure... whatever it is, our run defense needs to be vastly improved for next season.

Whoever, the pick is for DC, player talent and D must improve.

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Re: vance joseph
Date: January 12, 2017 08:53AM

Middle Linebacker a MUST. someone with some wheels. A Corner. Safety.

Give DE a break. We keep going after that position despite have an elite Pass rusher.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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Posted by: captkoi ()
Date: January 12, 2017 09:37AM

fiedlerhater Wrote:
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> Well I have to throw my opinion out there, and am
> not sure if people will like it. I am not sad to
> see him leave. This defense was terrible, yes I
> know that injuries played a part in it. But It was
> blatantly unguided and out of control. The same as
> cincy was at the end the year before. No
> discipline and zero adjustments when needed. I for
> one would love to see old Rex here. A complete
> genius for defense, terrible head coach. And while
> on the subject I would love to see pouncey and
> albert gone as well. I dont care how great you
> are, if you cant get on the field it doesnt really
> matter. You can find serviceable centers at half
> the cost that will be there all 16 games. Move
> smokestack to tackle and sign a guard. Thanks for
> any input.

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Ryan is a hell of a DC, but because of his personality and his being a HC for the last six(?) years, I feel he should sit out a year. He will, early on, have a hard time being the DC, and not the HC.

I don't wish to see Pouncey and Albert gone as they helped form a solid OL. However, because of their injury history and age (Albert), they should renegotiate their contracts. Saying that, Miami should look for solid backups and also the draft (not necessarily Miami's first pick) to ensure bodies are there that can fill in and hopefully take over somewhere down the line.

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Posted by: mizzou15 ()
Date: January 12, 2017 09:39AM

MLB Sign Zach Brown from BUFF helps us screws the Bills.

Draft
1 Peppers S MI
2 best center
3 best SLB

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Posted by: jsm08 ()
Date: January 12, 2017 11:22AM

I'd love it if peppers was there at 22.

I want us to draft TJ Watt from Wisconsin. That boy can play LB. Projected to go in the 1st or 2nd but haven't seen his name in any mocks.

If we could get him in the 2nd or 3rd I'd be pleased.

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Posted by: chatafkup ()
Date: January 12, 2017 04:30PM


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Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: January 12, 2017 05:14PM


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Posted by: mizzou15 ()
Date: January 13, 2017 03:48AM

jsm08 Wrote:
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> I'd love it if peppers was there at 22.
>
> I want us to draft TJ Watt from Wisconsin. That
> boy can play LB. Projected to go in the 1st or
> 2nd but haven't seen his name in any mocks.
>
> If we could get him in the 2nd or 3rd I'd be
> pleased.

Yeah I wouldn't mind getting Watt either.

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Re: vance joseph
Date: January 13, 2017 09:46AM

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> Chat, hit the search function with my name and
> search "quarterback is the only" player and you
> will see many posts going back years where I argue
> that a lot of fans believe if you have a great or
> even good QB, the rest of the team doesn't
> matter.
>
> I am not one of those people. Neither is Sam. I
> pointedly blamed our DEFENSE for the blowout by
> the Ravens.
>
> Statistics sometimes lie. We won a lot of games
> in the first half of our season but it was not
> solely due to Tannehill but to our offensive lines
> which let Ajayi accomplish great things and our
> defensive secondary.
>
> As said before, Sam was once Tanny greatest
> defenders.
>
> But Perhaps Sam is one of those "Quarterback is
> the only player" guys.
>
> But let's not put him in the category of someone
> who was always on his case.
>
> Many people on this board were always on Henne's
> case and never gave him a chance, merely because
> he was chubby.
>
> I think Tanny gets so much slack is because he was
> a high first round pick in a "quarterback year"
> containing Luck and RGIII.


Forever the defense attorney....You know what Chyrene? Who gives a flying F*** what he said 3-4 yrs ago?

We have a QB Now , last season that threw for 4000Yds. Your going to compare Chad Henne to Ryan Tannehill? He was chubby. He couldnt run for shit and averaged 2000Yd seasons with how many INT's. His only saving grace was he had Jake Long in his prime keeping him from getting sacked.

Fast forward to Tanny you have a QB doing many great things. Fine I have different excuses for why the last 4 seasons didn't go great for the Team. Difference of opinion. I get it.

But this season we kicked ASS. After a bad start we came back and Tannehill had some amazing moments/games. And Simple Sammy couldn't acknowledge that , you either if it killed you. You and you Pocket passer bullshit , and him with his B.S nicknames. The negativity you both were spewing about the past was inappropriate.

3-4-6 even 10 seasons ago we would have KILLED for a 4000 yd passer. a guy who also runs 3-400 yds as well . Sammy demands a superbowl or he is a POS!!? really? You defend that?

I guess Dan Marino was a POS too? And you defend him yet. recklessly too I might add. Then you dont even have the Nuts to make a bet about a Tagline next season. LOL. You either need to put up or shut up my friend.

MEOW.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/13/2017 11:15AM by TreasurecoastPhinsfan.

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Posted by: Dolphacolyte ()
Date: January 13, 2017 10:41AM


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Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: January 13, 2017 12:03PM


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Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: January 13, 2017 01:27PM

Wait a minute?.....Maybe he is a female cop in love with tannehill. LMAO.

Notice his name is treasure.....i mean her name.

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Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: January 13, 2017 02:13PM


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Date: January 13, 2017 02:19PM


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Posted by: fiedlerhater ()
Date: January 13, 2017 08:42PM

Chyren, hello friend. we go back along way and you have always had my back, I am going on record as agreeing with your opinions and insight. I see that the forum and board has not changed! why as a group of fans we cannot voice our opinions without ridicule from those that dont agree? TC i know nothing of you or about you other than you are along time member and poster, but for christs sake if you dont know the difference between a prosecutor and a defense attorney you really should not judge what the hell this man says. And further more, Marino was a damn QB god. In all his years playing, he had 1 season with a 1k rusher. Yes was immobile as a brick wall and still, still still threw more tds than anyone else, and had a defense ranked in top 10 only 4 times. Tanny is good but with his running ability and his running backs, he still cant come close to sniffing marinos jockstrap. So seriously chill out and let people say what they want to say and quite being an ass.

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Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: January 13, 2017 10:50PM

Glad to see you on the board again, Fiedlerhater. Oh, I'm sure Treasure was just teasing me. He also probably would not rate Tanny anywhere as near as good as Marino.....would you, TC?

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Posted by: jsm08 ()
Date: January 14, 2017 01:59AM

a thread about vance joseph turned into a tannehill argument between the 3 usual suspects.

shocking!

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Posted by: fiedlerhater ()
Date: January 14, 2017 05:14AM

Hahaha, no sir, absolutely not a debate or argument here, just a little debate. I am certainly not too worried about the QB, way to many holes to fill.

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Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: January 14, 2017 06:54AM

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> So, Sam. Maybe he is the Black Lives
> 'Mistress'?????


HMmmmm thats something to think about.

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Re: vance joseph
Date: January 14, 2017 08:37AM

Fiedler.....with a name like that , that kind of shows what your all about huh? Basically no matter how the team does, if it ain't Marino it sucks.

And it also makes you the perfect fit with these two nitwits.well.....Chyren ain't a nit wit, but he defends one so........


So.......do you always watch the last 2 mins. Of a game and then comment on the whole game?

Dude welcome back, but STFU unless you spent the season here and actually read what we are discussing.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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Date: January 14, 2017 08:39AM

jsm08 Wrote:
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> a thread about vance joseph turned into a
> tannehill argument between the 3 usual suspects.
>
> shocking!


Well no one replied to my Ricky Williams thread.....spinning smiley sticking its tongue out

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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