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Re: Please People Stop the Positive Spin
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: November 11, 2014 09:50AM

KB Wrote:

> IMO what he now needs is a receiver or two with
> some SIZE. All our 6ft speed guys fit Dan Marino
> better than RYan Tannehill and the WCO. Again
> IMO, it's the reason we are struggling in the red
> zone, Tannehill is not a 'timing throw' QB with
> pinpoint accuracy, he needs a big target or two to
> throw to in traffic. Said it before, I'll say it
> again, we should've drafted Kelvin Benjamin...

The only receiver playing above his pay grade right now is Landry. This kid's got heart. Wallace is playing his heart out as well but he just isn't set up for the way he is being used. Turned out to be a bad pick/contract by Ireland....I know, shocker!

I couldn't agree more about getting bigger targets. It seems no one is getting open on the short and intermediate routes. Nobody is making plays after the catch outside of Landry. It's not just bigger target, it's yac as well. Clay is just average at this point. A real step back for him.

We need shifty, quick twitch guys as well as larger catch radius guys.

I would kill for a K-Benjamin or Mike Evans type.

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Re: Please People Stop the Positive Spin
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: November 11, 2014 10:19AM


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Re: Please People Stop the Positive Spin
Posted by: dolphin ()
Date: November 12, 2014 06:12AM

"Over the last 10+ years, we have been in the lows. We have seen some pretty bad football being played by our guys."

10 years! so I guess it is ok to just continue the same way for some. I personally want to see the Dolphins win!

Joe you are correct. Clock management should start much earlier when we have the lead.

808phan, did you watch the game? They did try a throw on 3rd on the final drive. and i never said this loss was all on Tannehill.

The defense could have made a stop. I would blame the coaching most on this loss. questionable decisions early in the game. Not blocking the beast with 2 people right off was not smart.

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Re: Please People Stop the Positive Spin
Date: November 12, 2014 08:29AM


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Re: Please People Stop the Positive Spin
Posted by: tonybaby5 ()
Date: November 13, 2014 02:33AM

To 808Phan - I live in NY and do not have the luxury of sitting home and watching the games on TV. I'm out in loud sports bars watching the game with no sound, but that's ok I accept sitting with Jets and Giant fans. I live and die with this time. I read the internet everyday of the year looking for information on the Phins. I have watched this team for over 40 years so please do not tell me to not post what I'm feeling. I have seen this movie playout so many times with the same sad ending. I hope I'm wrong and I can come on this board tomorrow and post something positive. I'll be watching tonight and rooting hard, but our weakness is the offensive line and the Bills strength is the defensive line. This matchup does not add up in my book for a WIN.

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Re: Please People Stop the Positive Spin
Posted by: dolphin ()
Date: November 13, 2014 03:55AM

don't speak the truth tony, speak lala land like some on here.

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Re: Please People Stop the Positive Spin
Posted by: dolphin ()
Date: November 13, 2014 03:59AM

Wallace is doing everything he can. How anyone can knock on him is bizarre.

Treasure do you knot think the coaches are asking why did we lose this game? How can we get better?

Yes, we had 2 good wins this year so far. You are going to be happy with that if we miss the playoffs again? You think the owner will be? The rational fans?

I do believe Cleveland is in the playoff hunt, and they were WAY worse then us last year. They by the way play in the toughest division in football record wise.

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Re: Please People Stop the Positive Spin
Posted by: dolphin ()
Date: November 13, 2014 09:02AM

What im hearing out of your blah blah blah is that Tannehill would be great if all the players around him were great, and all the plays called were perfect....

They were competitive LAST year until tannehill went poo poo his last 2 games.

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Re: Please People Stop the Positive Spin
Posted by: captkoi ()
Date: November 13, 2014 09:56AM

JoeFootball Wrote:
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> KB Wrote:
>
> > IMO what he now needs is a receiver or two with
> > some SIZE. All our 6ft speed guys fit Dan
> Marino
> > better than RYan Tannehill and the WCO. Again
> > IMO, it's the reason we are struggling in the
> red
> > zone, Tannehill is not a 'timing throw' QB with
> > pinpoint accuracy, he needs a big target or two
> to
> > throw to in traffic. Said it before, I'll say
> it
> > again, we should've drafted Kelvin Benjamin...
>
> The only receiver playing above his pay grade
> right now is Landry. This kid's got heart. Wallace
> is playing his heart out as well but he just isn't
> set up for the way he is being used. Turned out to
> be a bad pick/contract by Ireland....I know,
> shocker!
>
> I couldn't agree more about getting bigger
> targets. It seems no one is getting open on the
> short and intermediate routes. Nobody is making
> plays after the catch outside of Landry. It's not
> just bigger target, it's yac as well. Clay is just
> average at this point. A real step back for him.
>
> We need shifty, quick twitch guys as well as
> larger catch radius guys.
>
> I would kill for a K-Benjamin or Mike Evans type.

*******************************************************

Well, the Wallace signing was a good idea at the time, but hasn't worked out the way anyone hoped it would.

This game, vs Buffalo, is going to be another one where Wallace won't get any long balls. Why? Because RT isn't going to have time to step back and throw down the field. Wallace will be valuable only in the sense that he can bring a couple of defenders with him and open up the short routes for the other guys.

Most of the passing plays will be of the 10-15 yard variety, because RT is just not going to have time to step back and survey the field. There won't be any three progressions. It's gonna be his first option or run or throw it away.

Our OLine could come up with a miracle and be able to hold out the Buffalo front four, but IMO, that will be highly unlikely.

Lazor is the key to this game. Can he devise a game plan that will negate the Buffalo pass rush and keep RT out of harm's way, or will it be the same as usual?

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Re: Please People Stop the Positive Spin
Posted by: 808phan ()
Date: November 13, 2014 10:12PM

tonybaby5 -

My apologies for the harsh words. I hear ya...I understand your passion, trust me on that.

Enjoy the win smileys with beer

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Re: Please People Stop the Positive Spin
Posted by: tonybaby5 ()
Date: November 14, 2014 02:46AM

No worries 808Phan. Yes I did enjoy the win and the Phins are still in the playoff hunt!

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Re: Please People Stop the Positive Spin
Posted by: dolphin ()
Date: November 14, 2014 04:45AM

so treasure just for the record you are saying tannehill was awesome the last 2 games of the season last year ???

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Re: Please People Stop the Positive Spin
Posted by: JoeFootball ()
Date: November 14, 2014 04:51AM

What's the matter...can't find anything to grind on Tannehill this week so you have to go back to last year?

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Re: Please People Stop the Positive Spin
Date: November 14, 2014 08:32AM

dolphin Wrote:
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> so treasure just for the record you are saying
> tannehill was awesome the last 2 games of the
> season last year ???


He played as well as the rest of the team with a major distraction. What's your point as usual? Tannehill has a great week so you need to go back to last season? Lol

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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Re: Please People Stop the Positive Spin
Posted by: dolphin ()
Date: November 14, 2014 09:43AM

LOL

OK Treasure. LOL

You do realize that when Tannehill plays well the team wins correct? When he DOES NOT they lose correct?

so far he is .500 in that

I went back to last year (if you could actually follow a conversation) and said they team WAS competitive last year too.

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Re: Please People Stop the Positive Spin
Date: November 14, 2014 10:00AM

Did you mean the or they team!?

Whoops......another typo from perfect storm.......

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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Re: Please People Stop the Positive Spin
Posted by: KB ()
Date: November 14, 2014 10:28AM

TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
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> Did you mean the or they team!?
>
> Whoops......another typo from perfect storm.......

You're bad Treasure lol....spinning smiley sticking its tongue out

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Re: Please People Stop the Positive Spin
Date: November 14, 2014 05:43PM

I think the Dolphins responded with their own positive spin huh? eye rolling smiley

GO DOLPHINS!!!!



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 11/15/2014 04:26AM by TreasurecoastPhinsfan.

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Re: Please People Stop the Positive Spin
Posted by: JC ()
Date: November 15, 2014 04:09AM


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Re: Please People Stop the Positive Spin
Date: November 15, 2014 04:25AM

At least I'm man enough to admit it........smileys with beer

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

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