Hello everyone, i have ranted on this forum for years now. I have been a phan for close to 35years and I have never seen such a gigantic huge group of tampon wearing people in my life as this dolphin team. Please explain to me how philbin is still coaching and tanny is still behind center. It is completely obvious tha the players want nothing to do with either of them. How the hell can you explain the wr having a dozen drops in this league?? High school kids dont drop the ball that much. Is it not the coaches responsibility to sit players that are just not doing the job? Tanny is actually regressing in my eyes. He is afraid to run, its literally like watching stevie wonder play catch, he simply cannot play the game at this level to win consistently enough. Moore should be at the helm of this team right now, because it is slipping away quickly and philbin should be gone if nothing else as a motivational tool, but that would require balls from our fruitless owner. So my question again is can anyone help me understand....

What do you expect? Our team sucks because of coaching. I'm done with this team this year. It pisses me off that I gave up on my team. Why should I be subjected to shit as a team? I'm numb I've grown numb to this bs.

so many good Qs we passed up on to get Tanny.
nick Foles, Kirk Cousins, Russell Wilson...
Ireland and Parcells can go F themselves!!

socalphin Wrote:
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> so many good Qs we passed up on to get Tanny.
> nick Foles, Kirk Cousins, Russell Wilson...
> Ireland and Parcells can go F themselves!!


......that's kind of an unfair statement. We also passed up on several QBs that went into the shitter. Saying we could have grabbed someone else just makes no sense. Tannehill is an extremely athletic QB. The Dolphins are not playing him to his strength's. They are not putting him in a position to succeed.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

What really chaps my ass is we could have had Bree's not once but twice! Look at him he is like what 37, 38? Is a workout warrior and just @#$%& man. Instead we keep getting bums.

Well the list of quarterbacks that I wanted us to draft (prior to the draft they were actually drafted in of course) would have gone a long way toward fixing our QB issues if we had taken a few of them. Hindsight is always 20-20 though.

2012 - Ryan Tannehill
2012 - Brandon Wheeden...#2 choice to RT.
2011 - Colin Kaepernick
2011 - Ricky Stanzi...#2 choice to Kaepernick.
2011 - Blaine Gabbert...#3 choice
2008 - Joe Flacco...but was happy at the time with Jake Long.
2007 - Brady Quinn
2006 - Matt Lienart...(would have had to trade up from 16-10 to get him)
2001 - Drew Brees
1999 - Daunte Culpepper...(But we didn't have a pick due to dumb JJ trades and would have required a trade up from 24-11 to get him.)
1999 - Cade McNown...again, no pick)
1998 - Brian Griese...needed someone to groom.


I also really wanted us to find a way to draft the following, knowing there was no real way to do it;

2012 - Andrew Luck
2012 - Robert Griffin
2004 - Phillip Rivers

"Tannehill is an extremely athletic QB."

how many of those are there now in the NFL that are doing any good?

The only one that I can think of would be Russell Wilson.

Ken Wrote:
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> Well the list of quarterbacks that I wanted us to
> draft (prior to the draft they were actually
> drafted in of course) would have gone a long way
> toward fixing our QB issues if we had taken a few
> of them. Hindsight is always 20-20 though.
>
> 2012 - Ryan Tannehill
> 2012 - Brandon Wheeden...#2 choice to RT.
> 2011 - Colin Kaepernick
> 2011 - Ricky Stanzi...#2 choice to Kaepernick.
> 2011 - Blaine Gabbert...#3 choice
> 2008 - Joe Flacco...but was happy at the time with
> Jake Long.
> 2007 - Brady Quinn
> 2006 - Matt Lienart...(would have had to trade up
> from 16-10 to get him)
> 2001 - Drew Brees
> 1999 - Daunte Culpepper...(But we didn't have a
> pick due to dumb JJ trades and would have required
> a trade up from 24-11 to get him.)
> 1999 - Cade McNown...again, no pick)
> 1998 - Brian Griese...needed someone to groom.
>
>
Are you kidding? McNown? Lienart? Quinn? Gabbert? Stanzi? Wheeden? How would that have helped? They would have just fallen in line behind all the other QB stiffs we've had since Marino.

montequi Wrote:
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> Ken Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > Well the list of quarterbacks that I wanted us
> to
> > draft (prior to the draft they were actually
> > drafted in of course) would have gone a long
> way
> > toward fixing our QB issues if we had taken a
> few
> > of them. Hindsight is always 20-20 though.
> >
> > 2012 - Ryan Tannehill
> > 2012 - Brandon Wheeden...#2 choice to RT.
> > 2011 - Colin Kaepernick
> > 2011 - Ricky Stanzi...#2 choice to Kaepernick.
> > 2011 - Blaine Gabbert...#3 choice
> > 2008 - Joe Flacco...but was happy at the time
> with
> > Jake Long.
> > 2007 - Brady Quinn
> > 2006 - Matt Lienart...(would have had to trade
> up
> > from 16-10 to get him)
> > 2001 - Drew Brees
> > 1999 - Daunte Culpepper...(But we didn't have a
> > pick due to dumb JJ trades and would have
> required
> > a trade up from 24-11 to get him.)
> > 1999 - Cade McNown...again, no pick)
> > 1998 - Brian Griese...needed someone to groom.
> >
> >
> Are you kidding? McNown? Lienart? Quinn?
> Gabbert? Stanzi? Wheeden? How would that have
> helped? They would have just fallen in line
> behind all the other QB stiffs we've had since
> Marino.


Here's the thing, you have to pick players that you can actually get when you pick...those were the guys in those drafts. I never said that all of them would of helped us get better, in fact I said a few of them would have. That's true...

RT, jury still out.
Kaepernick, we'd have been better with him.
Flacco, we'd have been better with him.
Brees, we'd have been better with him.
Culpepper, we'd have been better with him.
Griese, maybe we would have been better with him learning a thing or two from Marino in his final year.

Stanzi Wheeden, and Gabbert were not first choices...but again you gotta take someone and they each had solid reasons for drafting them at the time.

And as far as Lienart, Quinn and McNown are concerned, who was better in those years, and any one of them could have been a step up from Fiedler. Point is we didn't try and we should have.

Let's face it guys.

Very few YEARS the draft is held produces crops like 1983, John Elway, Dan Marino, Jim Kelly, Tony Eason, Ken O'Brien, as well as Todd Blackledge.

So most years you have to run the risk of a relative unknown being a bust at QB or a doubtful guy being a bust as QB or even a highly touted guy being a bust at QB (which has happened A LOT since 1983).

So question isn't quarterback versus quarterback, but quarterback vs. other impact player or quarterback THIS YEAR versus quarterback NEXT YEAR.

It's a crap shoot.

dolphin Wrote:
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> "Tannehill is an extremely athletic QB."
>
> how many of those are there now in the NFL that
> are doing any good?
>
> The only one that I can think of would be Russell
> Wilson.


If we put Tannehill on that team he would be wearing a ring as well.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!