it's reported that Farmer has turned down the GM job and won't take the second interview.
Anyone still want to defend that pathetic bumbling buffoon Steve Ross? He has made this team toxic as evidence by the fact that we can't even get a coach (harbaugh, fisher) or GM (Farmer, Licht, those other guys who refused to interview) to take his money to work here.

Our next GM...Brian Gaine, who had a hand in building this wonderful team we see before us.

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The whole 3-ring circus is disgusting…

First it's reported by several sources that Ross is out of the country, then after 4 days or so, he supposedly never left. All the while we're scheduling more interviews, but then we're not -- and we're making a decision this weekend. All this after the GMs and their assistants at the senior bowl were shaking their heads at the fiasco in the making. Follow that with more info out about Phlimflam and his incompetence, the obvious issues with position coaches, and we're missing in action at the senior bowl, and…

It's just too much garbage placed on a heap of prior rotting garbage to not SMELL the absolute stench that pervades this sick ass franchise with Ross at the helm. Granted, Huizenga's reign ended on the downside but this jack ass has managed to guide the franchise to the realms of something good quality candidates avoid…

It's a total joke and a laughingstock.

BNF.

indeed you are correct BNF. how anyone can defend what's going on here and not see that we are a total joke is beyond me.
we can't even hire someone to be our GM--this is 1 of 32 jobs like it in the world, and people don't even want to take a promotion to get it.
in the end we will hire Gaine and they will try to sell it as this was who we wanted all along.
Sad...

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...see my "best case scenario" thread! LOL.

Oh well. We should all be used to this pathetic perpetual calamity by now. Right?

The other "funny thing" is all these candidates turning the GM job down when we have such a certified genius head coach poised to win multiple Stupid Bowls in his spare time (in between backgammon and paperclip organizing competitions)!

It's utterly unfathomable. And furthermore. Illegitimately moronic!

Who are these guys???

BNF.

I am.

I hold out hope that they stumble upon a diamond but realize the chances of that are slim.

I wonder if Marc Anthony was in on these interviews?

Steve Ross cares more about his D-list celeb owners and orange carpet than he does the product he puts on the field.

And Carl Peterson is a joke too. That guy was public enemy #1 his last 5 years in KC. The man of the 5 yr plan was there 20 and never built a winner.

What a total shit show. Poor Joe Robbie.

jsm08 Wrote:
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> I am.
>
> I hold out hope that they stumble upon a diamond
> but realize the chances of that are slim.
>
> I wonder if Marc Anthony was in on these
> interviews?
>
> Steve Ross cares more about his D-list celeb
> owners and orange carpet than he does the product
> he puts on the field.
>
> And Carl Peterson is a joke too. That guy was
> public enemy #1 his last 5 years in KC. The man
> of the 5 yr plan was there 20 and never built a
> winner.
>
> What a total shit show. Poor Joe Robbie.

Here here my fellow true Dolphin fan!

Let us LOL all over this ridiculous charade.

I dig the Marc Anthony thing -- maybe he can hang-on with the upcoming buying group that irradiates SFL from the Rotten Ross Swine Flu (RRSF)!

I'm with ya brother. Let's protest. Or do something.

Personally I'm not going to buy any tickets to see Marc Anthony until he helps get Ross out of Davie (and keeps his ass in NY like the *** ***** he is!

Good luck solving me * riddle!

So Salguero is saying he spoke with Farmer and was told he hasn't decided whether to interview again.

He also spoke with the fritz pollard alliance dude who said he'd told farmer he definitely should interview.

holy moly

the hang up?

power structure.

i think farmer know's he's going to be aponte's new caddie.

all i know is i hope my broncos pull it out next week.

ross hitched his wagon to ireland 3 years ago. it cost us fisher, harbaugh, and a shot at manning.

it's now hitched to philbin who's firmly implanted in dawn's aponte. that's already costing us a shot at the top gm candidates and even the 2nd levelers are declining. what'll that get us? Brian Gaine. A good foot soldier.

so next year will ross be hitching that wagon to Gaine? will he finally wise up and give carte blanche to someone to run the show from top to bottom.

i believe the broncos got manning because of elway. if that's the case then get marino in here. if his name and legacy can attract quality candidates and players give him what he wants.

It's not a big deal any body is going to be better than Fireland.

Farmer has not turned down the interview as of this hour. That report is false.

HOWEVER, if I was hiring a GM and one of my candidates was wishy washy about accepting a second interview given my parameters...I'd drop him to the bottom of my list ASAP. The Dolphins need a guy who will be 100% committed, not someone who is second guessing.

Hey Farmer, do us a favor...if you are indeed second guessing the Dolphins, withdraw your name NOW! We don't need you!



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Ross thinks he's a f***ing da Vinci and like most of these billionaire heads full of galactic proportioned EGO he actually believes he's the reason the sun rises in the morning and Venus shines at night.

It's like the story of Vishnu if you get my obscure drift -- he's destined to the ant pile in the next go 'round…

That said -- we're f***ed until he gets out of the pic. And I mean TOTALLY out of the pic.

My opinion. Based on empirical evidence. Of course.

BNF.

Where's "Truth" to coddle Ross' fragile ego in this time of need???

LOL



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If Farmer doesn't really want the job then I don't want him to have the job either.

I still believe we can add a quality talent evaluator who makes all player personnel decisions.

The only people who are happy to accept a weak gm model are weak gm's.

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> The only people who are happy to accept a weak gm
> model are weak gm's.


ok so we've set it up where we only will have a weak GM take the job. you ok with that? who's to blame?

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Both Super Bowl teams have a much weaker GM model then the Phins setup.

Carol hired his GM and has final say on personnel decsions.

Elway didn't want to be GM (just final say)... But, took the role fully when Xanders departed for his scout role in Detroit...

maybe we are confusing "weak" set up with dysfunctional and incompetent. The Seahawks and Broncos and no other team have (1) idiot owner (2) conniving cap girl (3) weak useless coach who for some reason is untouchable and (4) GM position who must get along with, work with, and accept the foregoing

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What a chaotic mess !!!

THE Truth Wrote:
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> The only people who are happy to accept a weak gm
> model are weak gm's.


Ross has made the decision to go this route. Its his baby.

I've argued against this model from day one. It leads to chaos.

What you are going to get now is a GM with no power. He's going to have to buddy up with Philbin because Philbin the only one here with any football knowledge and the power to get hings his way.

You are going to get Brian Gaine.

Maybe it works out. Its not impossible, and stranger things have happened, but this is what we've been headed towards once Ireland was fired and Philbin was not.

I'm not getting all worked up over it.

In some ways its better. If we go 7-9 next year then they can both be fired and we can finally move to the strong GM model because we won't have hired a GM worth keeping.

Jim B Wrote:
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> Both Super Bowl teams have a much weaker GM model
> then the Phins setup.
>
> Carol hired his GM and has final say on personnel
> decsions.
>
> Elway didn't want to be GM (just final say)...
> But, took the role fully when Xanders departed for
> his scout role in Detroit...


Elway in Denver is the epitome of a STRONG GM set up.

Carroll is the strong coach set up. That works sometimes also, but Philbin hasn't shown the ability to win big at any level as a HC so why would we ever give him the control that Carroll has?

We have the (PMO) Pathetic Moron Owner set up.

On the brighter side of things, I bought a new Miami Dolphins key lanyard today. Old logo. I probably should have just given that 10 bucks to a bum instead.

Apparently Farmer wanted control over all personnel and finacial aspects of the team and didn't want to report to anyone but Ross himself.

Philbin controls the coaching staff.
Aponte controls finacial matters.

Farmer would have been in control of player personnel and the scouts...not enough for him I guess.

Good riddance to him. If he dosen't want the job then I don't want him working for the team.

Why? I don't subscribe to the one man in control of everything philosophy...it's usually too much work for one person to do and to have it done well.

I don't particularly want him as the GM but it's time to see what Gaine brings to the table...let him step up and fill the bigger pair of shoes.

Maybe he turns out to be the man we need. We'll see soon enough.

Yes ken everyone and everything is wrong except Ross

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Ken Wrote:
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> Apparently Farmer wanted control over all
> personnel and finacial aspects of the team and
> didn't want to report to anyone but Ross himself.
>
> Philbin controls the coaching staff.
> Aponte controls finacial matters.
>
> Farmer would have been in control of player
> personnel and the scouts...not enough for him I
> guess.
>
> Good riddance to him. If he dosen't want the job
> then I don't want him working for the team.
>
> Why? I don't subscribe to the one man in control
> of everything philosophy...it's usually too much
> work for one person to do and to have it done
> well.
>

I'm not sure I follow you Ken.

How is one GM, in control of personnel (players and coaches) and what we spend on players and coaches, in control of everything?

He's not messing around with the coaching side of the equation other than to hire and fire the staff he wants to hitch his career to.

One man in control of everything would be the Head Coach who trys to do that job AND the GM job.

I'd agree with you that that is not the model I'd want. Its too much work for one man.


A strong GM model gives you compartmentalized coaching, personnel and business aspects of the organization with one FOOTBALL person having the final authority over who coaches, and what players are on the team.

No matter what organization you are talking about...if you go high enough in the structure you have one person who makes the decisions.

The way we are currently set up with coaching, personnel and the business sides all independent, equal and reporting directly to the owner, our ultimate decision maker on all things football related is a neophyte Billionaire real estate mogul.

That's not good.

Can't we just sell to Bon Jovi or something?

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“I'm here" You're welcome!" - Kenny Powers

cshashaty Wrote:
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> It goes without saying that I don't always agree
> with the Sentinel's Omar Kelly, but do yourselves
> a favor and read his column today. You can get to
> a free version through the Phins.com News Wire.
>
> I don't know where the entire truth begins and
> ends in this whole GM thing, so it is unfair IMO
> to sling arrows as many in media are doing today,
> but I can tell you that anyone who is prejudiced
> about working with women has no place in business
> today.
>
> Here's cold fact that people had better get used
> to: Dawn Aponte is a powerful woman in a male
> dominated business, and she's damn good at what
> she does. She is HELPING to make the Dolphins a
> winner, which is a hell of a lot more than Ireland
> did. So ANY new GM coming into the organization
> had better be comfortable working with her or they
> can find employment elsewhere.

I have zero issues with Dawn Aponte running the revenue generating side of the business or having clout in the organization. By all accounts she's very intelligent and very good at those things.

I don't want her (or Ross) anywhere near the decisions on what systems we run, who coaches, and what players we bring in.

If you didn't play football, coach football or work as a scout in the NFL then you have no business being involved in the personnel decisions for staffing or players.