who stays and who goes

•G Richie Incognito ($4.05 million)
•OT Tyson Clabo ($3.5 million)
•G John Jerry ($1.32 million)
•*OT Will Yeatman ($560,000)
•*G Danny Watkins ($555,000)
•TE Dustin Keller ($4.25 million)
•WR Marlon Moore ($296,471)
•DT Randy Starks ($8.45 million)
•DT Paul Soliai ($5.75 million)
•LB Austin Spitler ($481,765)
•CB Brent Grimes ($5.5 million)
•*CB RJ Stanford ($635,600)
•CB Nolan Carroll ($630,000)
•*CB Justin Rogers ($97,941)
•S Chris Clemons ($2.75 million)

I'd keep Grimes, Soliai, and Starks.

Clemons was solid, but I would not sign him for crazy money.

•G Richie Incognito ($4.05 million) Tough choice, might be dictated by other factors.
•OT Tyson Clabo ($3.5 million) pay cut.

•G John Jerry ($1.32 million) re-sign.

•*OT Will Yeatman ($560,000) bring in competition anyway

•*G Danny Watkins ($555,000) has he played enough for us to know?

•TE Dustin Keller ($4.25 million) How hurt?

•WR Marlon Moore ($296,471) has he played enough for us to know?

•DT Randy Starks ($8.45 million) okay ouch!

•DT Paul Soliai ($5.75 million) okay!

•LB Austin Spitler ($481,765) draft someone

•CB Brent Grimes ($5.5 million) okay if healthy.

•*CB RJ Stanford ($635,600) has he played enough for us to know?

•CB Nolan Carroll ($630,000) pay the man.

•*CB Justin Rogers ($97,941) at that price, why not?

•S Chris Clemons ($2.75 million) ????????

Sign Grimes, Moore , & Soliai, maybe Jerry if cheap, let the others walk. Need to sign Alteran verner to replace Carroll & Patterson. Go get ben tate

no big $$ on FA RB like Ben tate
Draft Tre Mason

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Tre mason = a smaller Trent Richardson? We already have Lamar Miller, same type of back. need a hammer like Legarrete Blount.

Toby Gerhart? Likely wouldn't consider phins unless a great offer

mason seems like a totally different kind of back than richardson or miller. reminds me of MJD

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CBS Fantasy Football ?@CBSFantasyFB 7m #Packers, James Starks expected to part ways:

Here you go, perfect fit in Miami..........

If you want an underachieving, injury prone running back with 5 career TD's. Oh yeah that's right up Ireland's alley!

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Keep Solai, Grimes, Starks, Richie, Watkins yeatman and Keller. Rest can go kick rocks. Carroll if he took a paycut.

Watkins and Yeatman? Really? Haven't these guys eaten up enough roster space for long enough.

Watkins was a former 1st round pick at G and never did anything last year AND was cut by the team who drafted him.

Yeatman has sat around long enough "being developed". Now he is coming off an injury. See ya.

Richie? No way in hell. Forget the fact that he is bad juju and an idiot....he gave up 6 sacks in 8 games. This will never happen.

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Everybody stay back........eesti is on a rollllllllllllll

I actually agree with eesti on this one.

we apparently need OL's that can zone block and apparently we dont have any

we need an oline that can zone block and run block as well.

Here is our starting line as of right now...

LT Dallas Thomas
LG Sam Brenner
C Pouncey
RG David Arkin (Danny Watkins if tendered)
RT Nate Garner

ouch! Say good bye to your QB.

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wow---I think Ireland deserves another year for SURE! I mean look at that OL he assembled! impressive!!

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In Ireland's defense, he only had about 30 mil in cap space, The number 12 OA pick, 2-seconds, 2-thirds and the rest of the draft to fix the o-line.

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Anyways guys. He got what he deserved.


Its like he worked did a lousy job and got paid for it.


Any of us could had done that.

I would not keep very many of them as our run defense sucked this past year, and our pass rush disappeared when this team needed it the most. So I say bring in new players as well as a new scheme last year did not work.

The defense was on the field non-stop. You think they may have been suffering from fatigue a bit during those losses? We know what kind of player Cam Wake is and there was a reason he disappeared as well.

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dolfan1 Wrote:
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> who stays and who goes
>
> •G Richie Incognito ($4.05 million)...Gone.
> •OT Tyson Clabo ($3.5 million)...Gone.
> •G John Jerry ($1.32 million)...Keep we'll need depth.
> •*OT Will Yeatman ($560,000)...Keep we'll need depth.
> •*G Danny Watkins ($555,000)...Keep we'll need depth.
> •TE Dustin Keller ($4.25 million)...Keep unless he can't come back from injury.
> •WR Marlon Moore ($296,471)...Keep for now because he's cheap.
> •DT Randy Starks ($8.45 million)...Gone.
> •DT Paul Soliai ($5.75 million)...Keep.
> •LB Austin Spitler ($481,765)...Keep.
> •CB Brent Grimes ($5.5 million)...Keep.
> •*CB RJ Stanford ($635,600)...Keep.
> •CB Nolan Carroll ($630,000)...Gone, I'd rather have a rookie playmaker.
> •*CB Justin Rogers ($97,941)...Keep for depth.
> •S Chris Clemons ($2.75 million)...Keep, but I'd look in the draft for an athletic, fast cover saftey that's good in run support.


There you have it. 16+ Million saved and we keep depth guys.

They need to can the zone blocking scheme. Are we supposed to dismiss quality offensive linemen because they don't fit in our stupid zone blocking scheme. The Ravens switched to a zone blocking scheme this year and they never got their running game together. They let Ben Grubbs a great run blocking G go to the Saints and guesse who is still playing now.

Screw zone blocking.

Where are these quality offensive linemen exactly?

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Ken Wrote:
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> dolfan1 Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > who stays and who goes
> >
> > •G Richie Incognito ($4.05 million)...Gone.
> > •OT Tyson Clabo ($3.5 million)...Gone.
> > •G John Jerry ($1.32 million)...Keep we'll
> need depth.
> > •*OT Will Yeatman ($560,000)...Keep we'll need
> depth.
> > •*G Danny Watkins ($555,000)...Keep we'll need
> depth.
> > •TE Dustin Keller ($4.25 million)...Keep
> unless he can't come back from injury.
> > •WR Marlon Moore ($296,471)...Keep for now
> because he's cheap.
> > •DT Randy Starks ($8.45 million)...Gone.
> > •DT Paul Soliai ($5.75 million)...Keep.
> > •LB Austin Spitler ($481,765)...Keep.
> > •CB Brent Grimes ($5.5 million)...Keep.
> > •*CB RJ Stanford ($635,600)...Keep.
> > •CB Nolan Carroll ($630,000)...Gone, I'd
> rather have a rookie playmaker.
> > •*CB Justin Rogers ($97,941)...Keep for
> depth.
> > •S Chris Clemons ($2.75 million)...Keep, but
> I'd look in the draft for an athletic, fast cover
> saftey that's good in run support.
>
>
> There you have it. 16+ Million saved and we keep
> depth guys.

You can do even better than that!

1) INCOGNITO- Gone, from Day One. Too bad: he was Pro Bowl calibre PARCELLSBALL not long ago, and would've been tradeable. No more!

2) CLABO- Gone, but NOT until his replacement is signed, sealed and delivered...we've made THAT mistake before: why do it again?

3) YEATMAN and WATKINS- Gone. Both have shown zippo. Time to look elsewhere.

4) KELLER- Gone. We now KNOW where CLAY should be lining up, and it ain't as a Goddam H-Back. And I like SIMS as well...at least as a blocking TE, but I think he'll deliver more than that! Get a real FB for the lead-blocking, if you must, and QED. If MIAMI can't even see THAT much, then FORGET ABOUT IT! P.S.: The money saved is a great "fringe benefit".

5) STARKS- Gone. BIG saving of cap space.

6) CARROLL- KEEP. He played reasonably well this year, and is arguably our 2nd or 3rd best CB. Solid CBs don't grow on trees, so you keep as many as you can. At $630,000, you can't go wrong.

7) SOLIAI- Keep. Give him his payday: he's worth it!

8) GRIMES- Keep. He pretty much shuts down 1/2 of the field.

9) THE REST- Keep...for now. If someone better at the same position comes along, FINE! MIAMI'll be in a position to do WHATEVER is best.

The Saving should be c. $21,365,000, or thereabouts.



Edited 1 time(s). Last edit at 01/09/2014 10:28PM by LUDUPORCU.

When you think about it , we still have options. Ireland was douchebag but he really didn't do that bad a Job. He could have done better of course, but he really didn't do that bad a job.

GO DOLPHINS!!!!

LUDUPORCU Wrote:
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> Ken Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > dolfan1 Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > who stays and who goes
> > >
> > > •G Richie Incognito ($4.05 million)...Gone.
> > > •OT Tyson Clabo ($3.5 million)...Gone.
> > > •G John Jerry ($1.32 million)...Keep we'll
> > need depth.
> > > •*OT Will Yeatman ($560,000)...Keep we'll
> need
> > depth.
> > > •*G Danny Watkins ($555,000)...Keep we'll
> need
> > depth.
> > > •TE Dustin Keller ($4.25 million)...Keep
> > unless he can't come back from injury.
> > > •WR Marlon Moore ($296,471)...Keep for now
> > because he's cheap.
> > > •DT Randy Starks ($8.45 million)...Gone.
> > > •DT Paul Soliai ($5.75 million)...Keep.
> > > •LB Austin Spitler ($481,765)...Keep.
> > > •CB Brent Grimes ($5.5 million)...Keep.
> > > •*CB RJ Stanford ($635,600)...Keep.
> > > •CB Nolan Carroll ($630,000)...Gone, I'd
> > rather have a rookie playmaker.
> > > •*CB Justin Rogers ($97,941)...Keep for
> > depth.
> > > •S Chris Clemons ($2.75 million)...Keep,
> but
> > I'd look in the draft for an athletic, fast
> cover
> > saftey that's good in run support.
> >
> >
> > There you have it. 16+ Million saved and we
> keep
> > depth guys.
>
> You can do even better than that!
>
> 1) INCOGNITO- Gone, from Day One. Too bad: he was
> Pro Bowl calibre PARCELLSBALL not long ago, and
> would've been tradeable. No more!
>
> 2) CLABO- Gone, but NOT until his replacement is
> signed, sealed and delivered...we've made THAT
> mistake before: why do it again?
>
> 3) YEATMAN and WATKINS- Gone. Both have shown
> zippo. Time to look elsewhere.
>
> 4) KELLER- Gone. We now KNOW where CLAY should be
> lining up, and it ain't as a Goddam H-Back. And I
> like SIMS as well...at least as a blocking TE, but
> I think he'll deliver more than that! Get a real
> FB for the lead-blocking, if you must, and QED. If
> MIAMI can't even see THAT much, then FORGET ABOUT
> IT! P.S.: The money saved is a great "fringe
> benefit".
>
> 5) STARKS- Gone. BIG saving of cap space.
>
> 6) CARROLL- KEEP. He played reasonably well this
> year, and is arguably our 2nd or 3rd best CB.
> Solid CBs don't grow on trees, so you keep as many
> as you can. At $630,000, you can't go wrong.
>
> 7) SOLIAI- Keep. Give him his payday: he's worth
> it!
>
> 8) GRIMES- Keep. He pretty much shuts down 1/2 of
> the field.
>
> 9) THE REST- Keep...for now. If someone better at
> the same position comes along, FINE! MIAMI'll be
> in a position to do WHATEVER is best.
>
> The Saving should be c. $21,365,000, or
> thereabouts.

Those players are not under contract and do not count against the salary cap. How exactly are we saving anything? We still have to resign someone to fill their place IF we don't resign them.

We are reported to have around 28 mil in cap space. We need to find a starting......

LT, LG, RG, RT, FS, DT & CB

Beyond that we need.....

CB3, Better o-line reserves, upgrade at ILB, WLB and DT3.

Hopefully the new GM can get Dimitri Patterson to cut his salary (or cut him) and Mike Wallace to restructure his contracts to free up some of the 17 mil he counts against the cap this year.

Also...a HB who can block, SS and TE.

We can also free up 5.4 mil if we have to release Dimitri and about 1m if we cut Daniel Thomas.

Once again we have dead weight in the top salaries of the cap. Wheeler and Ellerbe count about 14 mil but we can cut each in half if do the June 1st desgnation OR get creative with a trade.

That's an additional 13 mil in cap space for 2014. 41 million in cap space ought to do the trick to fill those gaps.

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How much would dumping or trading Moore save?

dolphaholic Wrote:
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> How much would dumping or trading Moore save?

Save 4 mil with 1.5 mil dead cap hit.

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eesti Wrote:
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> dolphaholic Wrote:
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> > How much would dumping or trading Moore save?
>
> Save 4 mil with 1.5 mil dead cap hit

I doubt they carry 3 QB's again, I wonder if Moore's days are numbered?

Backup is important IMO...developmental guy...not so much. Training camp battle?

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