It is just that plain and simple in week 17.

The Dolphins currently hold the sixth and final seed in the AFC with a record of 8-7. Also tied with them at the same record are the Chargers and Ravens, but Miami owns the tiebreaker over both teams. Therefore, the ball is in their court now.

That IS plain and simple, holic. As you said, Miami has to win. Can't get more plain and simple than that.

OOps. I guess if they all lose, then Miami still goes. Wouldn't that be a kick in the head?

dolfan1 Wrote:
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> It is just that plain and simple in week 17.
>
> The Dolphins currently hold the sixth and final
> seed in the AFC with a record of 8-7. Also tied
> with them at the same record are the Chargers and
> Ravens, but Miami owns the tiebreaker over both
> teams. Therefore, the ball is in their court now.


Miami does NOT hold the head to head tiebreaker with the Ravens. We lost to them.

If we finish in tie with just the ravens, we lose.

If its a 3 team tiebreaker with the chargers and ravens then we win.

If its a 4 team tiebreaker with Pitt, Bal and SD we lose.

THE Truth Wrote:
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> dolfan1 Wrote:
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> -----
> > It is just that plain and simple in week 17.
> >
> > The Dolphins currently hold the sixth and final
> > seed in the AFC with a record of 8-7. Also tied
> > with them at the same record are the Chargers
> and
> > Ravens, but Miami owns the tiebreaker over both
> > teams. Therefore, the ball is in their court
> now.
>
>
> Miami does NOT hold the head to head tiebreaker
> with the Ravens. We lost to them.
>
> If we finish in tie with just the ravens, we
> lose.
>
> If its a 3 team tiebreaker with the chargers and
> ravens then we win.
>
> If its a 4 team tiebreaker with Pitt, Bal and SD
> we lose.

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It's a lot easier for us fans to just sit back, hope Miami wins, then let the chips fall where they may.

ChyrenB Wrote:
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> That IS plain and simple, holic. As you said,
> Miami has to win. Can't get more plain and simple
> than that.
>
> OOps. I guess if they all lose, then Miami still
> goes. Wouldn't that be a kick in the head?


Not true, in no scenario can Miami lose and still get in.

Holic, you're right. I didn't realize that 1) the Jets have only a 7-8 record themselves and more importantly, even though we beat them earlier and would tie head to head, they would finish the division race 3-3 while we would finish 2-4 (those two losses to Buffalo screwing us again).

So regardless of how many other teams tie us at 8-8, under the NFL rules all ties between teams in the same division are broken first and we would be eliminated.

So you're right. We simply can't lose to the Jesters.

we need to win and hope either Bal or SD loses. Frankly I think the first part of the equation seems least likely.
KC will be playing their backups so a SD loss is unlikely. Cin is playing for a #2 seed so should be playing all out against Bal. The phins generally lose games like this (just like last week).

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Don't we actually need the Chargers to win? that would give us the 3 way tie with the Ravens, and if it's just us and SD, we beat them head to head. The Ravens are the ones we need to lose.

no if we win and bal loses we are in regardless, as you said we have the tiebreaker with SD

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We need SD to win IN CASE Baltimore wins. An SD win doesn't hurt us at all.

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Yes, we need to root for Baltimore to lose and SD to win. SD winning does not hurt us in any way, and if they win (and we win) we go to the playoffs regardless of what Baltimore does. Fortunately KC will be resting a lot of their starters against SD.

i think that's wrong, if we win and bal wins we need sd to lose

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No, in that case we need SD to win. We win a 3 way tie with SD and Balt. We lose a 2 way tie with Balt.

Berkeley why you arguing? Guys he is pulling our chains.hehe

berkeley223 Wrote:
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> i think that's wrong, if we win and bal wins we
> need sd to lose


No...if we win and baltimore wins and SD loses we finish in a two way tie with baltimore and we lose the tiebreaker.

We need to win and have either Baltimore lose or SD win.

>
> We need to win and have either Baltimore lose or
> SD win.

Truth is correct. If we end up in a 2-way tie with Baltimore then Baltimore goes based on head-to-head (they beat us). If we end up in a 2-way tie with SD, then we go based on head-to-head. If all three end up tied, then we go based on conference record (the head-to-head records cancel each other out).

my bad, thanks for the correction

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I heard the explanation on the radio yesterday. In a 2-way tie, the first tie breaker is head-to-head (and Baltimore wins that against us). in a 3-way tie, conference record is the tie breaker (and we beat both Baltimore and San Diego). So, that's why a San Diego win puts us in even if Baltimore wins.

We didn't beat Baltimore.

If we just beat buffalo last week we would not need to worry today

If they Dolphins put their best effort together they will win. If they make the playoffs...the stars were aligned in their favor. We will know tonight for sure.

plain and simp the system's a pimp

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