Well it's another season started off great only to fcking fall to maybe the worse team in the league. I don't think Philbin lasts the season, and Tannehill *MOD EDIT KEEP IT CLEAN PLEASE* That being said what coach would want to take this job with a no talent roster, and a fan base that does not go to the home games. I can honestly say that I have never been more disgraced the last 4 weeks that I am right now for this abysmal failure of a whole organazation. From the players to the coaches, and the fans this maybe the worse team in the long history of this once proud franchise. Moore starts from now on, and Tannehill never sees the field in a Dolphin uniform again. At least let's start their.


Mod's note: Let's also start by avoiding nastiness in our posts. Surely you can get your point across without using slurs.



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For all of the money we spent in so called free agency how can this front office totally neglect the offensive line? Ireland should be fired for this B.S., and Philbin for accepting this crap that he has to put on the field.

I am starting to believe that Philbin is weak also, he doesn't really seem to get emotional enough for me and I think that sends a message to the players. If I had been him I would have made it a point on the post game press conference to call out the officials and their piss poor job, screw the fines and such, what are they going to do call bs penalties that help the fins lose games, oh wait they already to that. From what I have read online Philbin kept his thoughts to himself and the NFL channel never did show his postgame conference, they did show Belacheat and Tommy though.

jrhammerjr Wrote:
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> I am starting to believe that Philbin is weak
> also, he doesn't really seem to get emotional
> enough for me and I think that sends a message to
> the players. If I had been him I would have made
> it a point on the post game press conference to
> call out the officials and their piss poor job,
> screw the fines and such, what are they going to
> do call bs penalties that help the fins lose
> games, oh wait they already to that. From what I
> have read online Philbin kept his thoughts to
> himself and the NFL channel never did show his
> postgame conference, they did show Belacheat and
> Tommy though.

Yep, Philbin is horrible at 'ralling the troops' Thats why this team has no fire or fight. They are challanged, they lay down, turn over and start peeing...

It became obvious in the N.O. game. A couple of bad breaks after playing a pretty decent 1st half of football and we IMPLODE. Couple this with the lack of any kind of adjustments or situational football and you have a formula for...well...exactly what is happening.

they got rid of all the players that would speak up, now there appear to be no leaders

I can tell you if Marino were getting sacked like that he would have been in the OL's face

" Mod's note: Let's also start by avoiding nastiness in our posts. Surely you can get your point across without using slurs."

Aparrently not.

Rick

colonel Wrote:
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> Well it's another season started off great only to
> fcking fall to maybe the worse team in the league.
> I don't think Philbin lasts the season, and
> Tannehill sucks so much ass he out to be in gay
> porn flicks. That being said what coach would want
> to take this job with a no talent roster, and a
> fan base that does not go to the home games. I can
> honestly say that I have never been more disgraced
> the last 4 weeks that I am right now for this
> abysmal failure of a whole organazation. From the
> players to the coaches, and the fans this maybe
> the worse team in the long history of this once
> proud franchise. Moore starts from now on, and
> Tannehill never sees the field in a Dolphin
> uniform again. At least let's start their.
>
> C'mon Man--tell us what you really think!
>
> Raw thoughts...strong thoughts...many good points
> too.
>
> True--this is an abysmal failure of leadership and
> player execution. Losing the games we did in the
> manner points to lousy coaching and poor training.
> There's no adaptability.
>
> I don't agree with you that Tannehill is a lost
> cause and should be replaced by Moore. Such a
> change does little for morale in the locker room
> IMO.
>
> I also don't agree with you on talent. There are
> some real players on the team--unfortunately, they
> are not being used optimally because of the
> coaching and still inconsistent O-line play. The
> O-line made good with their acquisition of
> McKinnie. Starting him helped us get 17 points in
> the first half. The inability to cope with the
> new tactics of the Patriots in the second half is
> weak coaching--no lousy coaching. The team wasn't
> able to thwart blitzing players. Assignments were
> missed and that includes Incognito.
>
> Wallace is not a Steelers. He doesn't have Ben R.
> throwing to him. He's not getting open. He is not
> a fighter for the ball and from what I've seen
> loses those battles unless the is really open and
> the ball is put in his hands with a near perfect
> throw. He doesn't catch in traffic and is not
> thriving here...he may not...so...his production
> and salary are really skewed.
>
> Philbin IMO is showing weak leadership as HC. If
> anyone believes I'm wrong--I'd like to see
> something to the contrary. Coyle is no master at
> adapting to half time changes by opponents. Not
> good! Our O-line coach is not winning me over
> either.

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Hey Colonel, a couple thoughts on your comments.

Yes, very poor coaching. Sherman had everything working to (almost) perfection in the first half, then can't adjust when NE starts blitzing in the 2nd half.

Agreed, RT is not a lost cause; he is a good QB that has the fortitude to become an even better QB. He needs a really good QB coach to help him. Pocket awareness (which is leading to his fumbles and getting hit as often as he does); getting the ball out sooner and stronger for those bombs; moving around a little more than he does.That all comes with a good QB coach and time (along with having a decent OL that can give him more than 2.4 seconds). Can't agree, tho, with your comment about locker room morale. If a change will help a team win, then they will accept the change. But, RT is not the problem.

I agree with you in that there is quite a bit of talent on Miami's roster and with your comment that the talent is not being utilized properly. The playmaker position is where I think the coaching staff has failed miserably. They just aren't using that talent in the proper way, i.e., Wallace (as you said and I have been saying for the last few weeks) cannot catch the ball unless he is comfortable and it is right to him. Wallace needs to give some of that money back, or give a big sum to charity. Gibson is now out. Hartline is almost the forgotten man. Why isn't Sherman utilizing Miller more in pass patterns?

You mentioned Big Ben and Wallace. Are you saying that Ben has a stronger arm than RT? I'm not sure I agree, as I have seen some strong throws by RT. What I see is that because Ben is as big and strong as he is, he is able to stand in the pocket a little longer, or he is able to shake off the tacklers enough so that he can let that ball go.

Philbin - as the old saying goes - "The buck stops here." What more can be said? Game time changes? NONE of the coaching staff is good at it.

KB Wrote:
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> jrhammerjr Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I am starting to believe that Philbin is weak
> > also, he doesn't really seem to get emotional
> > enough for me and I think that sends a message
> to
> > the players. If I had been him I would have
> made
> > it a point on the post game press conference to
> > call out the officials and their piss poor job,
> > screw the fines and such, what are they going
> to
> > do call bs penalties that help the fins lose
> > games, oh wait they already to that. From what
> I
> > have read online Philbin kept his thoughts to
> > himself and the NFL channel never did show his
> > postgame conference, they did show Belacheat
> and
> > Tommy though.
>
> Yep, Philbin is horrible at 'ralling the troops'
> Thats why this team has no fire or fight. They
> are challanged, they lay down, turn over and start
> peeing...
>
> It became obvious in the N.O. game. A couple of
> bad breaks after playing a pretty decent 1st half
> of football and we IMPLODE. Couple this with the
> lack of any kind of adjustments or situational
> football and you have a formula
> for...well...exactly what is happening.

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It looks as though Philbin has a quiet demeanor on game day, however, do any of us really know what he is like during practices or behind closed doors? You may say that he is the same in all instances, but who of us really knows?

The players have to take responsibility for the way they play. These guys are professionals and make a lot of money. Because a coach is not firey and lets officials know what is really on his mind is an excuse for the players to not play up to their full potential? That is a shame if that is the case.

Those few calls by the officials were bogus, but did not lead to Miami's loss. It may have helped NE's cause, somewhat, but that isn't why Miami lost the game.

Yep, the Fins imploded in the second half, but was that because Philbin doesn't have that fire and brimstone in his belly, or...was it because Sherman failed at handling NE's blitzing?

I'm not saying that the refs were the only reason they lost, yes not making halftime adjustments has killed this team in the past and it killed this team yesterday. But making stops and big plays only to have questionable calls keep the drive going and then leading to at least 13 points is another big factor in this loss.

I agree the players are professionals and should play like it, but there is one reason the same teams continue to get the calls week after week and it is because their coaches and front office don't take crap from the league and the officials. If Philbin and Ross had the balls to say things publically and get fined eventually the crappy calls would go away. If you let a bully keep bullying you and don't stand up for yourself then nothing changes.

the calls certainly helped Pats in this game. Give us the 3 shitty calls they gave the Pats and the outcome is totally different.

Junior, I think you need to get the POLITICIANS involved. That way the public is involved and the NFL starts sweating because they don't want the public discussing (and by implication QUESTIONING) the integrity of the game.

If our coaches or owners do it, then they just get sanctioned.

But I think the Bills and Jets and other NFL teams also question why the Patsies seem to be the favorite of the NFL. Make it public by using the politicians.

Oh I think a person's demeanor can be effective or ineffective when dealing with large groups of men.

A leader doesn't have to yell or be angry in what he says for others to take him seriously. If done right, what is being said will be accepted, taken to heart, and applied if possible.

Let me give you two examples of demeanor.

The words,"You've got the ability, the know how, to go out there an win this game, take 'em to task, and show them we're for real."

Now put excitable Don Knotts, (Barney Fife) as the guy saying those words.

In contrast, put soft spoken Clint Eastwood as the guy saying those words.

Who might the guys tend to believe that they had a chance? It's obvious, isn't it.

Do you think, mild mannered Joe Philbin leans more towards Clint Eastwood or more towards Barney Fife? I sure as heck don't know, but I suspect he is very mild-mannered, isn't excitable, but comes across unconvincingly because he has no fire in the words he speaks. He doesn't energize, invigorate or motivate. Just my opinion and I can be proven wrong.