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John Jerry
Posted by: eesti ()
Date: April 17, 2013 06:23PM

No official numbers but reporters say Jerry reported in relatively good shape. If he reported at 345 and can drop 20 in camp he could have a shot at RT.

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Re: John Jerry
Posted by: jlyell13 ()
Date: April 17, 2013 06:36PM

Looks real good. Great with John!

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Re: John Jerry
Posted by: dolfanmark ()
Date: April 18, 2013 02:23AM

In an interview with Omar Kelly, Jerry said he weighed 338.

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Re: John Jerry
Posted by: eesti ()
Date: April 18, 2013 03:11AM

That's awesome. Probably the least he's ever weighed in Miami.

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Re: John Jerry
Posted by: dolphaholic ()
Date: April 18, 2013 03:32AM

I also read that Martin came in looking beefed up as well, hopefully the light bulb has finally gone off in Jerry's head.

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Re: John Jerry
Posted by: dolfanmark ()
Date: April 18, 2013 03:39AM

eesti Wrote:
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> That's awesome. Probably the least he's ever
> weighed in Miami.

Considering he came in at 390 last year, I'd say that's a definite.

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Re: John Jerry
Posted by: dolfanmark ()
Date: April 18, 2013 03:40AM

dolphaholic Wrote:
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> I also read that Martin came in looking beefed up
> as well, hopefully the light bulb has finally gone
> off in Jerry's head.


Martin came in at 318.

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Re: John Jerry
Posted by: dolphaholic ()
Date: April 18, 2013 04:24AM

dolfanmark Wrote:
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> dolphaholic Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > I also read that Martin came in looking beefed
> up
> > as well, hopefully the light bulb has finally
> gone
> > off in Jerry's head.
>
>
> Martin came in at 318.


Sorry, I meant more muscular, not fatter

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Re: John Jerry
Posted by: toko34 ()
Date: April 18, 2013 09:17AM

Go Jerry and Martin! That is fantastic news.

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Re: John Jerry
Posted by: eesti ()
Date: April 18, 2013 09:45AM


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Re: John Jerry
Posted by: BigNastyFish ()
Date: April 18, 2013 12:45PM

I'm a John Jerry fan and I believe he's the #1 test to Philbin's ability to D-E-V-E-L-O-P talent -- and a big part of that is applied motivation as necessary. And right now Mr. Jerry seems motivated.

Bottom line: Jerry is a stud athlete and has ALL-Pro potential (yep - BNF certified & guaranteed).

I'm highly confident Philbin is up to the task and Jerry is going to be "The Most Improved bitch on the roster -- or right up there with a few others including OV and my sleeper pick Josh Kaddu.

Beyond that -- I'm not digging on this Branden Albert nonsense because that effectively eliminates J Martin from LT contention -- which is his "natural" position and I think the kid is working his ass off to make big strides. And I'm always adverse to punishing those who work hard and are dedicated to constant professional improvement including dudes like Bess and (I'm hoping) Martin.

Bottom line -- Martin deserves his chance to win the spot ---IF he's been working his ass off. And the trade for Albert would effectively deny that chance because Branden has designated himself LT and nothing less (unless we want to pay him LT $$$ to plat RT -- and that shit makes no sense IMO).

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Re: John Jerry
Posted by: dolfanmark ()
Date: April 18, 2013 12:49PM

BigNastyFish Wrote:

>
> Bottom line -- Martin deserves his chance to win
> the spot ---

So, what happens if he isn't up to the challenge? Then what? What's the alternative?

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Re: John Jerry
Posted by: BigNastyFish ()
Date: April 18, 2013 01:25PM

4 letter word.

d r a f t

Opps, that's 5.

point is === albert "demands" 2b LT.

I say fock that.

We just got rid of an overpaid sloth plodder riod zoid at LT and don't need another high priced problem.

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Re: John Jerry
Posted by: dolfanmark ()
Date: April 18, 2013 05:35PM

BigNastyFish Wrote:
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> 4 letter word.
>
> d r a f t
>
> Opps, that's 5.
>
> point is === albert "demands" 2b LT.
>
> I say fock that.
>
> We just got rid of an overpaid sloth plodder riod
> zoid at LT and don't need another high priced
> problem.

If you are committed to Martin getting his shot at LT, then you aren't drafting a tackle at #12 to play RT. so, now you are rolling the dice on Martin, and then hoping if he doesnt work out, that some later draft pick is going to exceed anyone's expectations and become a good starting LT as a rookie?

Albert allowed 1 sack last season. Not one LT in the league allowed fewer. Why would he change positions? And why would he willingly move to RT, a position where his salary is going to be lower?

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Re: John Jerry
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: April 18, 2013 05:47PM

but mark he was the 25th rated LT in a league with 32 of them!

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Re: John Jerry
Posted by: BigNastyFish ()
Date: April 18, 2013 05:49PM


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Re: John Jerry
Posted by: dolfanmark ()
Date: April 19, 2013 02:05AM

berkeley223 Wrote:
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> but mark he was the 25th rated LT in a league with
> 32 of them!


No. He was 25th out of all tackles (left or right) who played at least 25% of their teams' snaps, of which they were 80. So, 25th out of 80. On the same list, Martin was 76th out of 80.

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Re: John Jerry
Posted by: captkoi ()
Date: April 20, 2013 08:27AM

BigNastyFish Wrote:
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> OK. Now you're starting to annoy me by overstating
> the obvious which I already pretty much stated.
>
> Yea. Exactly the point. If we trade for Albert
> he's LT. See my previous on the implications.
>
> If we draft OT @12 he competes for OL slot (RT or
> LT) with the existing roster talent.
>
> Simple. End of story.
>
> Albert is a "problem child" and comes with a lot
> of baggage. Whatever the BS stats say -- I'm NOT
> into that. Period.

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From what I read/heard, Albert only had one good season (last season).

I wouldn't have a problem of him coming to Miami, but it would have to be at a reduced rate (isn't he presently at $9M?) I hate losing that 2nd rounder, but if it solidifies that OL.....

It "seems" the coaching staff isn't real solid on Martin at LT. With no real hitting prior to the draft, it is very difficult for the coaches to know what they have in Martin. All they have is what he did last year and his 4 years in college. Do they go ahead and make the trade for Albert, or take a chance that Martin will be a solid LT?

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