Hopefully we get Finnegan and Clay back although we didn't really miss Clay much.

Baltimore rankings...

16th overall defense in yards, 7th in points

4th rush defense, 31st ranked pass defense!

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5th rushing offense, 16th passing, 10th overall in yards, 6th in points.

Baltimore has a 1k rusher already in Justin Forsett. That's better than any Jets RB.

JoeFootball Wrote:
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> Baltimore has a 1k rusher already in Justin
> Forsett. That's better than any Jets RB.


I rather take my chances with him than with chris johnson.

I don't think the Ravens will run almost every play like the Jets, but they might.

Where's Greg Camarillo when you need him?

samsam3738 Wrote:
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> JoeFootball Wrote:
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> > Baltimore has a 1k rusher already in Justin
> > Forsett. That's better than any Jets RB.
>
>
> I rather take my chances with him than with chris
> johnson.

That was Johnson's first 100 yard game of the year.

The issue will be the two best guards eating the lunch of our DT's. John Avery could tear you up with that kind of blocking.

JoeFootball Wrote:
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> Baltimore has a 1k rusher already in Justin
> Forsett. That's better than any Jets RB.


That's true Joe but the jets have the 2nd ranked ground game in the nfl after 12 weeks in both yards (1778) and ypc (4.8). Baltimore is 5th at 1581 & 4.6

johnson must have been hurt.

THE Truth Wrote:
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> JoeFootball Wrote:
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> > Baltimore has a 1k rusher already in Justin
> > Forsett. That's better than any Jets RB.
>
>
> That's true Joe but the jets have the 2nd ranked
> ground game in the nfl after 12 weeks in both
> yards (1778) and ypc (4.8). Baltimore is 5th at
> 1581 & 4.6

Yeah because they just put 277 on us. That may have bloated their numbers a bit. Ravens are a little more of a balanced team. They have 14 rushing TD's (3rd) to the Jets 9 (tied for 12th).

JoeFootball Wrote:
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> THE Truth Wrote:
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> > JoeFootball Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Baltimore has a 1k rusher already in Justin
> > > Forsett. That's better than any Jets RB.
> >
> >
> > That's true Joe but the jets have the 2nd
> ranked
> > ground game in the nfl after 12 weeks in both
> > yards (1778) and ypc (4.8). Baltimore is 5th
> at
> > 1581 & 4.6
>
> Yeah because they just put 277 on us. That may
> have bloated their numbers a bit. Ravens are a
> little more of a balanced team. They have 14
> rushing TD's (3rd) to the Jets 9 (tied for 12th).

Point taken, but even if the jets only posted 100 yards last night they'd still be ranked ahead of the Ravens in yards rushing. And you could take that entire game out of the equation and the jets still average more ypc (4.67 vs 4.56) than Baltimore.

Baltimore clearly is the more balanced offense and the better overall team, but the jets are a 1 dimensional offense and people still can't stop their rushing attack.

Think Decker regrets not staying in Denver.....

I don't think anyone in NY City is too happy these days. That's a shame.

THE Truth Wrote:
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> JoeFootball Wrote:
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> > Baltimore has a 1k rusher already in Justin
> > Forsett. That's better than any Jets RB.
>
>
> That's true Joe but the jets have the 2nd ranked
> ground game in the nfl after 12 weeks in both
> yards (1778) and ypc (4.8). Baltimore is 5th at
> 1581 & 4.6

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Yeah, and look what almost happened to Miami.

All the Jets needed was a half-way decent QB (which the Ravens have) and Miami would have been looking at a "L".

If Coyle doesn't get that defense fixed ASAP, Miami will be watching the playoffs from home, just like their fans.

we did this in jax too. we showed up expecting to win and they took it to us in the first half.

we ended up winning ugly.

the next week we blew out SD 37-0.

Not too many of us gave them a chance in that game. Hopefully we respond the same against the Ravens

As frustrating as that game was it's no indication of what kind of team we are.

The jets beat the steelers...

This is the NFL. Any team can beat any team at any time...

captkoi Wrote:
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> THE Truth Wrote:
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> > JoeFootball Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > Baltimore has a 1k rusher already in Justin
> > > Forsett. That's better than any Jets RB.
> >
> >
> > That's true Joe but the jets have the 2nd
> ranked
> > ground game in the nfl after 12 weeks in both
> > yards (1778) and ypc (4.8). Baltimore is 5th
> at
> > 1581 & 4.6
>
> **************************************************
> ****
>
> Yeah, and look what almost happened to Miami.
>
> All the Jets needed was a half-way decent QB
> (which the Ravens have) and Miami would have been
> looking at a "L".
>
> If Coyle doesn't get that defense fixed ASAP,
> Miami will be watching the playoffs from home,
> just like their fans.

Like most things in this league, it comes down to match ups cap.

Our interior oline is weak. We are going to struggle against defenses with very good Dt's who dominate that match up. It why we struggle with teams like buffalo, JAX, DET, nyj, and probably Baltimore. Our OT's have been a strength most of the year which is why we had better success offensively against GB, NE and Denver.

Unfortunately, that is our identity this year and it isn't going to change until we bring in better interior olinemen.

The same is true on defense. Our interior dline is small. It can get pushed around.

We fixed a lot of problems last year, but we still have work to do at og, dt and lb that can't be done in season.

Frankly, considering our weaknesses at dt and lb, and that we've lost our 2nd, 3rd and 4th cb's to injury, I think Coyle has done a decent job as DC. There's only so much you can do schematically to hide your weaknesses. Eventually it comes down to beating the guy who lines up in front of you. And that is not a strength of this year's team in the trenches.

Teams that have beaten the Ravens...

Bengals sweep (2), Colts, Steelers, Chargers.

The 2nd game vs the Steelers Ben R. threw for 340 yards and 6 TD's.

The wins were against....

Steelers, Browns, Panthers, Bucs, Falcons, Titans, Saints.

Not exactly the cream of the crop. Combined record of 31-52

The beat the Steelers and Browns when they were struggling in weeks 2 & 3. The Saints are still struggling. The Falcons, Titans, Bucs & Panthers are a mess.

The Ravens had 9 turnovers in those 5 losses. In 4 out of 5 losses they were held to under 107 yards rushing as a team. Only vs SD last week did they gain more and they still only had 125 yards.

They were held to 90, 94 & 63 in three of those losses.

Its a must win, dont win here we are sitting out the playoffs

With any luck, Torrey Smith will be out for this game...make things a little more even given our CB situation.

He injured his knee last week and is day to day.

I fear the pass rush more than the coverage.

dolfan1 Wrote:
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> Its a must win, dont win here we are sitting out
> the playoffs

Long time, no hear from, dolfan1.

yeah right.

But maybe I am wrong in that.

need to stop the run, put pressure on Flacco, and score TD's

Flacco has looked good the last two games. Hit him a couple of times and he gets wobbly. We gotta smack him around early. The Raven's defensive backs stink. The defensive front 7 is about the best in the business.

We lose this one 26-9. I hope I am wrong.

It's so hard to predict this team. Just when you think you have them figure out, some new chink in the armor appears.

We have so many issues right now, it's not funny. Injuries, declining play, etc.

If we can't stop the run we are done.