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Serious options for us in Rounds 2 & 3
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: April 27, 2012 02:10AM


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Re: Serious options for us in Rounds 2 & 3
Posted by: DaytonaDolfan13 ()
Date: April 27, 2012 04:00AM

In the 2nd I like TE DWAYNE ALLEN... huge need, terrific prospect

? you think we'll make a play to trade up for FLEENER ?

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Re: Serious options for us in Rounds 2 & 3
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: April 27, 2012 04:03AM

We could. Like I just posted in another thread, there are rumors that we are actively trying to get to the top of the 2nd round...

my only viable guesses for that reason would be Fleener or Courtney Upshaw.

But just a wild guess.

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Re: Serious options for us in Rounds 2 & 3
Posted by: montequi ()
Date: April 27, 2012 05:09AM

DaytonaDolfan13 Wrote:
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> ? you think we'll make a play to trade up for
> FLEENER ?

I was just about to post that, then I read it here. I'd be cool with that. I think a solid receiving TE may be one of our biggest needs.

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Re: Serious options for us in Rounds 2 & 3
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: April 27, 2012 05:10AM

GB always had good receiving TEs, so maybe Philben wants one here too.

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Re: Serious options for us in Rounds 2 & 3
Posted by: montequi ()
Date: April 27, 2012 05:13AM

berkeley223 Wrote:
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> GB always had good receiving TEs, so maybe Philben
> wants one here too.

The TE plays a big part in the WCO. Dwight Clark was a huge target for Montana back in the day.

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Re: Serious options for us in Rounds 2 & 3
Posted by: BigNastyFish ()
Date: April 27, 2012 07:33AM

We need to hit on every pick through R5 if we're going to turn this shit around. And then add one piece of treasure at the bottom of the draft or UFA.

OL DE/OLB are absolute musts. And WR is a guarantee in this draft.

I'm OK with doubling down all those positions. We're not going to solve all our issues in this draft alone. So hedge bets and maximze the chances to hit the right target.

BNF.

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Re: Serious options for us in Rounds 2 & 3
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: April 27, 2012 08:42AM


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Re: Serious options for us in Rounds 2 & 3
Posted by: rick1355 ()
Date: April 27, 2012 11:32AM

Yes, Mr.berkeley223 there is a ton of really good talent in this draft. I would like to see the phins pick up some extra picks today some how.

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Re: Serious options for us in Rounds 2 & 3
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: April 27, 2012 11:48AM

Rick someone said they were thinking of trading up in the second round.........

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Re: Serious options for us in Rounds 2 & 3
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: April 27, 2012 11:48AM

Id be happy if we hit on just 4 guys this year. That includes the qb of course.

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Re: Serious options for us in Rounds 2 & 3
Posted by: rick1355 ()
Date: April 27, 2012 12:12PM

If its a great player, I'm all for it thumbs up I wouldn't mind picking up some extra picks too thumbs up

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Re: Serious options for us in Rounds 2 & 3
Posted by: montequi ()
Date: April 27, 2012 12:55PM

> 42. Dolphins: Lavonte David, linebacker, Nebraska.

> David is a missile, and could start right away at weak side.

We already have 2 good weak-side LBs (Wake on the outside, Dansby on the inside). No need to spend more here. This is not a point of need. We can pick up a strong-side LB in the 3rd round.



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Re: Serious options for us in Rounds 2 & 3
Posted by: THE Truth ()
Date: April 27, 2012 01:37PM

montequi Wrote:
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> > 42. Dolphins: Lavonte David, linebacker,
> Nebraska.
>
> > David is a missile, and could start right away
> at weak side.
>
> We already have 2 good weak-side LBs (Wake on the
> outside, Dansby on the inside). No need to spend
> more here. This is not a point of need. We can
> pick up a strong-side LB in the 3rd round.


Monte,

Look at all the LB's we been brining in and signing lately...they are all small, 4-3 OLB's.

If, as has been speculated, that means we are moving to 4-3 (even if its has some 3-4 mixed in) then David is a GREAT pick.

We don't have an impact guy at the 4-3 OLB spot.

Wake will play DE in that alignment.

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Re: Serious options for us in Rounds 2 & 3
Date: April 27, 2012 01:42PM

Allen is available its a No brainer. West Coast here we come!

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Re: Serious options for us in Rounds 2 & 3
Posted by: dolfanmark ()
Date: April 27, 2012 01:48PM

montequi Wrote:
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> > 42. Dolphins: Lavonte David, linebacker,
> Nebraska.
>
> > David is a missile, and could start right away
> at weak side.
>
> We already have 2 good weak-side LBs (Wake on the
> outside, Dansby on the inside). No need to spend
> more here. This is not a point of need. We can
> pick up a strong-side LB in the 3rd round.

When we are in the 3-4, Wake plays on the strong side. We tried him on the weakside in early 2010, and he wasn't comfortable there. This week at the OTA, we were primarily in the 4-3, and Misi was playing on the weak side.

I don't think there's any chance we would take David anyway. He's 6'0, 233, so very undersized for the Ireland LB prototype.

According to the reports this week, we really were in a 4-3. So, if we want a pass rusher, you have to think in terms of DE and not OLB. And initially, this player will likely be a role player. Wake and Odrick will start at DE. On passing downs, Odrick will slide inside, and that opens up a spot for whoever fills this role. So, the pass rusher pick could be a guy that is a one dimensional right now, but could develop further.

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Re: Serious options for us in Rounds 2 & 3
Posted by: THE Truth ()
Date: April 27, 2012 01:50PM

dolfanmark Wrote:
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>
> According to the reports this week, we really were
> in a 4-3. So, if we want a pass rusher, you have
> to think in terms of DE and not OLB. And
> initially, this player will likely be a role
> player. Wake and Odrick will start at DE. On
> passing downs, Odrick will slide inside, and that
> opens up a spot for whoever fills this role. So,
> the pass rusher pick could be a guy that is a one
> dimensional right now, but could develop further.

Precisely.

So who do you like mark?

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Re: Serious options for us in Rounds 2 & 3
Posted by: dolfanmark ()
Date: April 27, 2012 02:04PM

THE Truth Wrote:
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> dolfanmark Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
>
> >
> > According to the reports this week, we really
> were
> > in a 4-3. So, if we want a pass rusher, you
> have
> > to think in terms of DE and not OLB. And
> > initially, this player will likely be a role
> > player. Wake and Odrick will start at DE. On
> > passing downs, Odrick will slide inside, and
> that
> > opens up a spot for whoever fills this role.
> So,
> > the pass rusher pick could be a guy that is a
> one
> > dimensional right now, but could develop
> further.
>
> Precisely.
>
> So who do you like mark?


Curry or Branch. Bequette and Cam Johnson sound interesting, but not until the 3rd round.

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Re: Serious options for us in Rounds 2 & 3
Posted by: THE Truth ()
Date: April 27, 2012 02:22PM

dolfanmark Wrote:
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> THE Truth Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > dolfanmark Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> >
> > >
> > > According to the reports this week, we really
> > were
> > > in a 4-3. So, if we want a pass rusher, you
> > have
> > > to think in terms of DE and not OLB. And
> > > initially, this player will likely be a role
> > > player. Wake and Odrick will start at DE. On
> > > passing downs, Odrick will slide inside, and
> > that
> > > opens up a spot for whoever fills this role.
> > So,
> > > the pass rusher pick could be a guy that is a
> > one
> > > dimensional right now, but could develop
> > further.
> >
> > Precisely.
> >
> > So who do you like mark?
>
>
> Curry or Branch. Bequette and Cam Johnson sound
> interesting, but not until the 3rd round.


Thats my order as well and I agree on the guys in the 3rd.

What do you think of Olivier Vernon?

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Re: Serious options for us in Rounds 2 & 3
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: April 27, 2012 02:26PM

i watched UM a lot and don't recall vernon making any plays
another underperforming cane with tons of natural skills---they usually play better in the pros then college

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Re: Serious options for us in Rounds 2 & 3
Posted by: dolfanmark ()
Date: April 27, 2012 02:30PM

THE Truth Wrote:
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> dolfanmark Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > THE Truth Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > dolfanmark Wrote:
> > >
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> >
> > > -----
> > >
> > > >
> > > > According to the reports this week, we
> really
> > > were
> > > > in a 4-3. So, if we want a pass rusher, you
> > > have
> > > > to think in terms of DE and not OLB. And
> > > > initially, this player will likely be a
> role
> > > > player. Wake and Odrick will start at DE.
> On
> > > > passing downs, Odrick will slide inside,
> and
> > > that
> > > > opens up a spot for whoever fills this
> role.
> > > So,
> > > > the pass rusher pick could be a guy that is
> a
> > > one
> > > > dimensional right now, but could develop
> > > further.
> > >
> > > Precisely.
> > >
> > > So who do you like mark?
> >
> >
> > Curry or Branch. Bequette and Cam Johnson sound
> > interesting, but not until the 3rd round.
>
>
> Thats my order as well and I agree on the guys in
> the 3rd.
>
> What do you think of Olivier Vernon?


Here's my belief. Pass rushers get by in college on pure athleticism. In the NFL, they have to learn techniques. It takes them time to develop. And Vernon had what, like 9 career sacks in college? To me, he is a developmental guy, and is not someone who would contribute this year.

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Re: Serious options for us in Rounds 2 & 3
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: April 27, 2012 02:31PM

agree

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Re: Serious options for us in Rounds 2 & 3
Posted by: dolfanmark ()
Date: April 27, 2012 02:33PM

Can't imagine Buffalo is taking a pass rusher. So, Carolina is the team here that could cost us Curry.

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Re: Serious options for us in Rounds 2 & 3
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: April 27, 2012 02:34PM

who do u want mark, curry?

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Re: Serious options for us in Rounds 2 & 3
Posted by: dolfanmark ()
Date: April 27, 2012 02:37PM

berkeley223 Wrote:
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> who do u want mark, curry?


Yes. I like that he was a team captain, and I like that his motor is not questioned.

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Re: Serious options for us in Rounds 2 & 3
Date: April 27, 2012 02:37PM

Branch is gone.........

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Re: Serious options for us in Rounds 2 & 3
Posted by: montequi ()
Date: April 27, 2012 02:38PM

THE Truth Wrote:
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> montequi Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > > 42. Dolphins: Lavonte David, linebacker,
> > Nebraska.
> >
> > > David is a missile, and could start right
> away
> > at weak side.
> >
> > We already have 2 good weak-side LBs (Wake on
> the
> > outside, Dansby on the inside). No need to
> spend
> > more here. This is not a point of need. We
> can
> > pick up a strong-side LB in the 3rd round.
>
>
> Monte,
>
> Look at all the LB's we been brining in and
> signing lately...they are all small, 4-3 OLB's.
>
> If, as has been speculated, that means we are
> moving to 4-3 (even if its has some 3-4 mixed in)
> then David is a GREAT pick.
>
> We don't have an impact guy at the 4-3 OLB spot.
>
> Wake will play DE in that alignment.

If we're moving to a 4-3, we need a MLB. I've been saying this for months. We don't have a single player on our roster who's played MLB. Dansby was an OLB in a 4-3

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Re: Serious options for us in Rounds 2 & 3
Posted by: dolfanmark ()
Date: April 27, 2012 02:38PM

montequi Wrote:
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> THE Truth Wrote:
> --------------------------------------------------
> -----
> > montequi Wrote:
> >
> --------------------------------------------------
>
> > -----
> > > > 42. Dolphins: Lavonte David, linebacker,
> > > Nebraska.
> > >
> > > > David is a missile, and could start right
> > away
> > > at weak side.
> > >
> > > We already have 2 good weak-side LBs (Wake on
> > the
> > > outside, Dansby on the inside). No need to
> > spend
> > > more here. This is not a point of need. We
> > can
> > > pick up a strong-side LB in the 3rd round.
> >
> >
> > Monte,
> >
> > Look at all the LB's we been brining in and
> > signing lately...they are all small, 4-3 OLB's.
> >
> > If, as has been speculated, that means we are
> > moving to 4-3 (even if its has some 3-4 mixed
> in)
> > then David is a GREAT pick.
> >
> > We don't have an impact guy at the 4-3 OLB
> spot.
> >
> > Wake will play DE in that alignment.
>
> If we're moving to a 4-3, we need a MLB. I've
> been saying this for months. We don't have a
> single player on our roster who's played MLB.
> Dansby was an OLB in a 4-3


Both Dansby and Burnett played MLB at the OTA this week.

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Re: Serious options for us in Rounds 2 & 3
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: April 27, 2012 02:39PM

some big time OL still on board, also randall from lsu and the gt WR
crazy!

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