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Ross calls protesting fan....
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: March 23, 2012 08:31PM

[www.sun-sentinel.com]


Very nice read. Interesting they were going to cut Marshall.

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"When you suck long enough, you get a Hickey"

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Re: Ross calls protesting fan....
Posted by: Finshady ()
Date: March 23, 2012 09:05PM

YES MAYBE WERE NOT GOING TO SUCK, AND WE MAY KNOW WHAT WERE DOING AS FAR AS BUILDING ON LAST YEARS SEASON ENDING SUCCESS. EVERYONE ON THIS BOARD HAS 2 FAVORITES BASHING THE DOLPHINS AND ME WONDER WHY?

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Re: Ross calls protesting fan....
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: March 23, 2012 09:10PM

We love you finshady.

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Re: Ross calls protesting fan....
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: March 23, 2012 09:10PM

Finshady Wrote:
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. EVERYONE ON THIS BOARD HAS
> 2 FAVORITES BASHING THE DOLPHINS AND ME WONDER
> WHY?

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Re: Ross calls protesting fan....
Posted by: Finshady ()
Date: March 23, 2012 09:30PM

Yes exactly ??????? WTF please why all the hatred. Hey Aqua why would the talking heads at ESPN be writing articles that say why RG3 will go before Luck when we all know this is not true. Do you think they get paid to write articles to go against the grain, or are they trying to push the new age QB being better than the classic pro system QB. Honest answer please. Here is the example I'm talking about.RG3

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Re: Ross calls protesting fan....
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: March 23, 2012 10:10PM

Finshady, to be honest with you, I'm not sure you would really care about my answer.

You already have it made up in your mind that RG3 is a bust.

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Re: Ross calls protesting fan....
Posted by: Finshady ()
Date: March 23, 2012 10:13PM

No I didn't say bust well yes I did because he has to learn the pro game, but yes I am interested really.

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Re: Ross calls protesting fan....
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: March 23, 2012 10:35PM

You don't have to go to the merits of your debate about RGIII to say that reporters, news, sports and any other kind of reporter is naturally going to write "news" and thus puff up the importance of any fact or facts upon which they are reporting.

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Re: Ross calls protesting fan....
Posted by: (R/J)ay ()
Date: March 23, 2012 10:54PM

Anyone who thinks RG3 is a better QB prospect than Andrew Luck is nuts.

I don't care which guy is smarter, which guy is a better athlete, which guy blah blah blah

Luck has already demonstrated he can run a pro style offense in which he calls his own damn plays and adjusts them at the line of scrimmage. RG3 has thrown that he can throw bubble screens in the Big 12.

RG3 might turn out to be a better pro, but Andrew Luck has already shown that he can play the position competently in the NFL. There's no risk with him and a ridiculous amount of upside.

RG3's just got the upside.

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Re: Ross calls protesting fan....
Posted by: Finshady ()
Date: March 23, 2012 10:55PM

What Chyren you are losing me some days, and I test at 142 my friend.

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Re: Ross calls protesting fan....
Posted by: Finshady ()
Date: March 23, 2012 10:57PM

R Jay you are not wrong Tebow was discared for whom anyone?

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Re: Ross calls protesting fan....
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: March 23, 2012 10:59PM

Well, mark me down as one of th guys who think RG3 will be hands down better than Andrew Luck.

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Re: Ross calls protesting fan....
Posted by: Finshady ()
Date: March 23, 2012 11:21PM

One question WHY? What have you got against Andrew Luck I would trade my 1st round pick this year and the next 2 years for the chance to take him #1. I am that convinced he will be better than advertised in the leauge where the talent on roster's is more evenly matched than in college.

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Re: Ross calls protesting fan....
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: March 23, 2012 11:52PM

I never said I had anything against Luck I think Luck will be great, I just think RG3 will be better.

See finshady, I'm not like you, I don't carry personal vendetta's against someone for certain reasons.

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Re: Ross calls protesting fan....
Date: March 24, 2012 05:16AM

Why can't they both be good? eye rolling smiley

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Re: Ross calls protesting fan....
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: March 24, 2012 07:38AM

TreasurecoastPhinsfan Wrote:
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> Why can't they both be good? eye rolling smiley


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In the words of the famous Ghotirule.....


Eggggggggggggzzzzzzzzzactly.

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Re: Ross calls protesting fan....
Posted by: dolphaholic ()
Date: March 24, 2012 07:44AM

Where has "the Ghoti" been lately?

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Re: Ross calls protesting fan....
Posted by: dolphaholic ()
Date: March 24, 2012 07:52AM

If you can believe this disgruntled fan (he would really have no reason to make it up, as it doesn't support his protesting antics), this is all you need to know about M. Flynn.

"[Ross] goes, 'If my coach wanted Matt Flynn didn't you think he would be here?'" Lawrence told the Sun Sentinel. "'If my coach said I want Matt Flynn as our starting quarterback next year he would be here, but I couldn't pay Matt Flynn $8 million to come here. If I end up getting him, it's a gamble … and I'm still drafting a quarterback. I'm still looking for another option.'"

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Re: Ross calls protesting fan....
Posted by: Hooligan2 ()
Date: March 24, 2012 08:13AM

but I couldn't pay Matt Flynn $8 million to come here.

Maybe something got lost in the re-telling. What does he mean? If Philbin wanted him, Flynn would have to agree to play for less than his market value?

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Re: Ross calls protesting fan....
Posted by: dolphaholic ()
Date: March 24, 2012 08:31AM

Hooligan2 Wrote:
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> but I couldn't pay Matt Flynn $8 million to come
> here.
>
> Maybe something got lost in the re-telling. What
> does he mean? If Philbin wanted him, Flynn would
> have to agree to play for less than his market
> value?


Not at all, he's saying based on Philbins assesment, Flynn wasn't worth 8 mil, especially if they thought they'd have to still draft a guy to compete.

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Re: Ross calls protesting fan....
Posted by: samsam3738 ()
Date: March 24, 2012 09:08AM

Very good job of getting 2....3rd round picks if indeed he was going to be cut anyways....

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If good Oline, the real deal will prevail. If not then we draft a qb in 2015.......first round.

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Re: Ross calls protesting fan....
Posted by: jlyell13 ()
Date: March 24, 2012 09:25AM

Also looks like we have picks 9 & 10 in the 3rd

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Re: Ross calls protesting fan....
Posted by: Aqua&Orange ()
Date: March 24, 2012 09:51AM

dolphaholic Wrote:
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> If you can believe this disgruntled fan (he would
> really have no reason to make it up, as it doesn't
> support his protesting antics), this is all you
> need to know about M. Flynn.
>
> " goes, 'If my coach wanted Matt Flynn didn't you
> think he would be here?'" Lawrence told the Sun
> Sentinel. "'If my coach said I want Matt Flynn as
> our starting quarterback next year he would be
> here, but I couldn't pay Matt Flynn $8 million to
> come here. If I end up getting him, it's a gamble
> … and I'm still drafting a quarterback. I'm
> still looking for another option.'"


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Hey bud,

Im not sure where the Ghoti has been. I havent spoken to him in a while.

As far as this post goes, Do you think what Mr. Ross said puts Philbin in a weird predicament or feel uneasy?

Ross kind of tells too much information. You never hear the good Owners talking. Never here strategy or the "Why's or Why Not's" of their organization.

What do you think?

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Re: Ross calls protesting fan....
Posted by: dolphaholic ()
Date: March 24, 2012 10:05AM

Aqua&Orange Wrote:
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> &&&&&&&&&&&
> Hey bud,
>
> Im not sure where the Ghoti has been. I havent
> spoken to him in a while.
>
> As far as this post goes, Do you think what Mr.
> Ross said puts Philbin in a weird predicament or
> feel uneasy?
>
> Ross kind of tells too much information. You never
> hear the good Owners talking. Never here strategy
> or the "Why's or Why Not's" of their
> organization.
>
> What do you think?

I think it does a little , but by Flynn yapping his trap I think the Dolphins were forced into that a bit. The Flynn situation is kinda what prompted the "Occupy Sun Life Stadium" movement, so I don't think they had a choice really.

As far as Ross talking too much, IDK, he's just trying to smooth things over with the fanbase a, he could of easily taken a "you people are peons and mean nothing to me" approach. IMO, he botched the Harbaugh chase badly, but other then that, I don't have much of a problem with him.......yet!

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Re: Ross calls protesting fan....
Posted by: Ken ()
Date: March 24, 2012 10:26AM

I applaud Ross for making the effort to explain things. He owes US (the fans) an explanation of why they did what they did. At this point the fans are calling for the heads of everyone in the organization from the GM up. We are not getting the best players on the market and we deserve an explanation as to why...

Damage control, sure...but we still want, and need, answers from the organization.

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Re: Ross calls protesting fan....
Posted by: berkeley223 ()
Date: March 24, 2012 10:57AM

even when ross gets a slow pitch PR opportunity like calling a fan he screws it up. Why did he need to say we were going to cut marshall if we didn't trade him (a move that would've caused rioting and they are damn lucky the didn't have to make)? why would he say philbin didn't like flynn (I am sure philbin didn't want that out there---even assuming it's true)?
I swear I have no idea how ross became successful. This just shows me that success in the real estate market has more to do with luck than brains---see donald trump

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Re: Ross calls protesting fan....
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: March 24, 2012 12:53PM

Finshady Wrote:
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> What Chyren you are losing me some days, and I
> test at 142 my friend.


I was responding to your comment "Do you think they get paid to write articles to go against the grain, or are they trying to push the new age QB being better than the classic pro system QB."

It was basically saying that of course news writers like to jazz up a story or make it seem like, well, "news."

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Re: Ross calls protesting fan....
Posted by: ChyrenB ()
Date: March 24, 2012 01:02PM

berkeley223 Wrote:
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> even when ross gets a slow pitch PR opportunity
> like calling a fan he screws it up. Why did he
> need to say we were going to cut marshall if we
> didn't trade him (a move that would've caused
> rioting and they are damn lucky the didn't have to
> make)? why would he say philbin didn't like flynn
> (I am sure philbin didn't want that out
> there---even assuming it's true)?
> I swear I have no idea how ross became successful.
> This just shows me that success in the real estate
> market has more to do with luck than brains---see
> donald trump

Yeah, but don't you think this is a case of damned it you do, damned if you don't (explain that is)?

....And do you have to take him down so low as Donald Trump? LOL.

Actually, no one has been harder on the case of management for the past several years as Me.

That is one of the main reasons for the rift between myself and THE Truth.

However, like I explained in another thread, I don't criticize them for the Marshall trade, which I think was great, and for not getting Peyton or Flynn. Peyton was beyond their control and Flynn was too in a matter of speaking because the HYSTERIA over Peyton had gotten so out of control that it boosted the price of Flynn beyond that of all reason.

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Re: Ross calls protesting fan....
Posted by: Crowder52 ()
Date: March 24, 2012 02:21PM

Everybody here knows I have no love lost for Ross, but I think this PR stunt, was probably the best thing he has done for his image and ownership of our team in a long time... While I understand what Berk is saying about the Marshall flub, I think Ross had to be honest with the fan and answer the questions he wanted to ask, you cant open up and take an everyman 25 minute phone call, and dance around issues... I think PR wise, Ross bucked up, tried to be honest, and it was a good move for him... He also took the heat and attention off of Ireland which was greatly needed, the more the medai and fans focus on Ireland, and his bad perosnality the worse off for Ross... Tickets sales are down so low, he needs to change up his game...Lets see if his actions and the team follow what he expressed in the interview, it is easy to talk the game, not so easy to back it up...

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Re: Ross calls protesting fan....
Posted by: 808phan ()
Date: March 24, 2012 02:24PM

berkeley223 Wrote:
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> even when ross gets a slow pitch PR opportunity
> like calling a fan he screws it up. Why did he
> need to say we were going to cut marshall if we
> didn't trade him (a move that would've caused
> rioting and they are damn lucky the didn't have to
> make)? why would he say philbin didn't like flynn
> (I am sure philbin didn't want that out
> there---even assuming it's true)?
> I swear I have no idea how ross became successful.
> This just shows me that success in the real estate
> market has more to do with luck than brains---see
> donald trump

For a team owner to call a 20 year season ticket holder who was protesting is phenomenal in itself. Actually, I admire Ross for what he did. He was being completely honest, and what he said eliminated speculation with his in depth answers.

It confirmed what even I have thought - Marshall pissed off more than just the fans with his dropped passes and character issues, & Flynn didn't impress Philbin enough for him to tell Ross to go ahead pay him 8mil a year. I didn't think he deserved that kind of money yet, & neither did Philbin.

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