It takes two to tangle, and as you even said "if they wanna move up". The bigger question, if Tannehill is gone (or Sherman "Flynns" him), what are some names that could fall to us that teams would want to move up to get?
> #27 and #31 is not enough to get into the top 10.
> I wouldn't want to move down that far anyway---not
> that there's a chance in hell we do a deal with
> the pats
I never said that was all they wanted to include in a trade.
I would consider that, we could load up with 2 firsts, 2 seconds & 2 thirds and sound player selection.One player isn't helping us
We reached for Pouncey last year
Imagine this in the first 4
Tannehill or Weeden
Jefferey, Sanu or kendall Wright
Bruce irvin or Vinny Curry
Bobby massie Or Brandon Mosley or Zebrie Sanders
Harrison Smith or George lloka
Chris Givens, Ryan Broyles, Tommy Streeter
Not sure if they would but the Pats do a lot of unexpected things in drafts and according to the draft point chart that is about what they would have to give. Not sure they feel there is someone at 8 they really want Floyd? Kirkpatrick? Upshaw? Perry?
Ken, given the fact that the Pats picks are so low, I would only be willing to do that if I felt that BOTH 1) I could still get Weeden with their first pick and 2) there were an abundance of "can't miss" players to be drafted at either OL, WR, or DE [OLB].
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Chyren, I ageee and I would only do it on your conditions. However, on your second point I would change it from "abundance of can't miss players" to "abundance of players we really like". The can't miss guys will be gone after the top 6 or 7 picks. Also, I don't want to trade down if a "can't miss" guy falls to us at 8. We need those impact type of players.
Who is the one "Can't miss" guy that will be there at 8? We need a bunch of players like the Rams, not just one.
Tannehill smells like Matt Cassell. Limited college playing time, and we think he is the franchise QB? Name me one college QB with one year of experience that became a franchise QB? Kurt Warner might be the only one. Is he the next Kurt Warner, Matt Cassell, or Matt Moore?
My definition of "can't miss" in this context is not the same as for QB. Remember I said OL, WR, or Pass rusher. What I mean is if the draft is heavy with guys who are rated A at those positions that would mean that you could get at least one of them at 22 or 24 (or whatever the Hell choices the Pats have) and draft Weeden too.
So suppose you have three or more guys at each of those positions, there is bound to be one left for someone drafting in the 20's of the first round. That makes trading down feasible.
We HAVE TO GET, in the first round, JUST HAVE TO GET, an upgrade at one of those positions AND if we can, Weeden.
We cannot afford. in my opinion, to give up everything (or pass up a chance to get TWO first round picks) just for Tannehill.
Hell, no! Not Tannehill.
Andrew Luck? Yes.
Tannehill? No. That would be just like us surrendering the opportunity to take OL, WR. or Pass rusher in the first round in exchange for Matt Flynn.
But to tell the truth, there were plenty of people on this board willing to do that before Flynn signed.