Janoris JenkinsJanoris Jenkins 4 kids all under the age of three, mutipule arrests for marijuana use, and peety crimes. This kid in a nut shell is what is wrong with our society. I would not reward this punk with an NFL contract at all let him go out, and do real hard physical labor to support his kids, and those babies mama's. I tell you where is the honor in doing what is right in society anymore. Sadly Jenkins is just one of many loser athletes that have been pampered by society, and have no clue how to care for themselves or their illegitimate offspring. Can anyone tell me how he supports these children right now? Our Society has become the laughing stock of other nations. If something does not change we won't be a great country much longer. Am I right to feel this way, and it this a big deal to you guys on this board thoughts please. Here is the article plese read it before you comment please.

Yeah but what it boils down to is that there are several ways to look at it.

As a prosecutor, my question is whether he is still active in criminal behavior.

If not, then if he can make a living working in the NFL, then don't look at it as a reward, look at it as him taking care of his kids instead of the government.

Look at it as maybe his kids will grow up middle class or even upper class and his grandkids will grow up to be better.

What good does it do anybody to deny him his chance to use his GOD* given talents to correct his life and right his wrongs?

What good does it do anybody to send him back to the streets where his only other alternative is either to be a charge on society or worse still, to go back being an enemy of society.


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* Footnote. It was in fact God who gave him that talent.

Of course, your post went way past your title. Going back reading your title AGAIN, my above post does not advocate that WE take him but does respond to your whole belief that he should not even be allowed into the NFL.

Yeah he's an ignorant one for sure. Not far behind The Jets CB, Cromartie who has 7 and not even age 30. But then there is Ricky Williams who also has 3 kids with 3 different women and problems with substance abuse.

Why deny him the oppurtunity at the one thing he's good at, maybe the second after making babies. We also live in a society where you get what you earn and he has earned an oppurtunity to play in the nfl.

I agree there is very little honor to be found anywhere in our society these days.

I here all of you,but it sure bothers the hell out of me that this class warfare thing has reached a level of us against them. Then you have these athletes that just bring child after child into the world with the means to take care of them unless they make in the athletic profession sad really. I could go on, but I bet jenkins was raised without a father. When will this viscious cycle of one parent families ever be broken does anyone really know? Whatever happened to being a responsible adult, and taking responsibilty of your actions where has that all gone in some segments of our population? This is why the athlete is way to pampered because no one can tell them NO. Do not have children out of wedlock or don not smoke weed or get into trouble heaven forbid he might not want to play for our college pathetic really. I even heard of coaches that have an abortion fund when will this madness end, and how bad do you really need to win at any and all cost? Alright I am off of my soap box just had to vent a little.

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> I here all of you,but it sure bothers the hell out
> of me that this class warfare thing has reached a
> level of us against them.

Class warfare???????????????????????? I am really puzzled because athletes do not constitute either a social or economic class and neither you nor the rest of us discussed class prior to this post.



Then you have these
> athletes that just bring child after child into
> the world with the means to take care of them

Do you mean "withOUT the means to take care of them," because if you mean "with the means to take care of them," how is that any different than what the Rockefellers do and, what's wrong with rich people having kids anyway???????????????



> unless they make in the athletic profession sad
> really.

Now if your complaint is that it is a shame if they don't make it and the kids have no means of support, then that's a point because it THEN would be sad.

I could go on, but I bet jenkins was
> raised without a father. When will this viscious
> cycle of one parent families ever be broken does
> anyone really know? Whatever happened to being a
> responsible adult,

Both the liberals and the rightwingers can be blamed for it because the liberals don't want morality taught in the schools and the right wingers don't want the teacher teaching morality to their kids, the rightwingers want that teaching reserved to the parents, who end up NOT DOING IT AT ALL.


and taking responsibilty of
> your actions where has that all gone in some
> segments of our population?

Again, I could blame both liberals and right wingers who have one thing VERY MUCH IN COMMON......that is they don't trust people, they only trust rules and when they make those rules, they do so to avoid giving power to people instead of rules.

I entered the first grade in 1954 and graduated from high school in 1966, all but one year in Oklahoma. The teachers could "whip," yes "whip with belts," kids who acted up. Hell, the coach whipped every boy who didn't make a passing grade on "shotgun" tests he would conduct every Friday.

So they took the whip out of the hands of the teachers and even told them they could not lecture the kids on morality. The result....the thugs took over discipline of the school, bullying weaker kids became the norm and morality went out the window.

In my school, only one girl got pregnant before graduation in the history of the school. Was it a girl from the poorer part of the neighborhood? No. It was the Senior Class President who got pregnant by the Football star who the next year became the starting quarterback at the University of Minnesota.

So that's your answer, blame the liberals and the conservatives both of whom combine to prevent teachers from preaching morality in schools.


This is why the
> athlete is way to pampered because no one can tell
> them NO.

But like I said, it's not only the athletes that are pampered in this post 1950's society, it is also the bullies and every other student.

[To put my bias out front, I come from a family of teachers].

Do not have children out of wedlock or
> don not smoke weed or get into trouble heaven
> forbid he might not want to play for our college
> pathetic really.

Amen.


I even heard of coaches that
> have an abortion fund when will this madness end,
> and how bad do you really need to win at any and
> all cost? Alright I am off of my soap box just
> had to vent a little.


Me too.

Considering what I do for living.......I just call it Job security.......

Its a screwed up country right now. Liberals point the finger at cons and vice versa. I to wish we could bring back the belt but you gotta roll w/ the cards you were dealt. If you only look at the the athletes that are aholes then that's what you will see there are some good ones out there.

Basically we need more Tebow, and less (Pick from a couple hundred assholes)

Anyway I am not going to make an issue out of this because we simply cannot change our society to try and do so would constitute the end of our democracy. What I am in favor of is cutting off the funds for these people who abuse the system to keep abusing it. If you have a child you're on your own meaning you get no extra help from uncle Sammy. That right their would help fix the problem.

Finshady Wrote:
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> I here all of you,but it sure bothers the hell out
> of me that this class warfare thing has reached a
> level of us against them.

Who is "us" and who is "them?"

Frankly, the concept of "class warfare" has nothing to do with jenkins being a talented/spoiled athlete or a bad kid.


>Then you have these
> athletes that just bring child after child into
> the world with the means to take care of them
> unless they make in the athletic profession sad
> really. I could go on, but I bet jenkins was
> raised without a father. When will this viscious
> cycle of one parent families ever be broken does
> anyone really know?

Well we know that educating poor people is a waste of time and money so that won't work. Maybe if you had to get a license or pass a civics/sex ed class in order to be allowed to father a child?

This is the problem when people have too much freedom. They do what they WANT to do not what we know is the right thing for them to do.

This is what happens in a nation where freedom and rights are extended to everyone. If only we'd held the line at women's suffrage. But what can you expect when you give women the vote, equal pay and equal rights, AND the ability to make choices on what to do with their own bodies?

Things were so much better when you could get a good wife for a goat and a few chickens. And the family unit so much better when you could smack her in the mouth when she stepped out of line.



> Whatever happened to being a
> responsible adult, and taking responsibilty of
> your actions where has that all gone in some
> segments of our population?

Some segments?

Name one segment of this society that doesn't fail miserably at this?


> This is why the
> athlete is way to pampered because no one can tell
> them NO. Do not have children out of wedlock or
> don not smoke weed or get into trouble heaven
> forbid he might not want to play for our college
> pathetic really. I even heard of coaches that
> have an abortion fund when will this madness end,
> and how bad do you really need to win at any and
> all cost? Alright I am off of my soap box just
> had to vent a little.

Yes ... Damn those kids for making so many adults who know better use them for their athletic skills to make a buck.

If only they were working 16 hours a day digging ditches and going to church everyday then they wouldn't fornicate so much.

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- Winston Curchill

The first time I clicked on this post, I was totally expecting it to say "Wouldn't touch this prospect with a 10 foot pole.....because he's black", man am I glad Finshady didn't turn it into one of those.........oh wait

This thread has become beyond ridiculous.